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Root
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3rd Sep 10 at 10:46   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I've got part time work atm but I wanna do a college course.

I want to do body work because I want to:
-be able to paint my own car(s) cheaply
-repair bodywork cheaply

I want to do mechanics because there's a lot more mechanic jobs out there than body work jobs..

halp? lol
marklawton
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persoanlly i would do bodywork. more money to be made. mechanies get about £250 a week? were as my brother who does bodywork gets £350 a week plus overtime
belton
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Fairly poor reason to want to do bodywork, but yes easier to start your own company and more money to be made. Worth getting the qualifications and then doing that though
Root
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Originally posted by belton
Fairly poor reason to want to do bodywork, but yes easier to start your own company and more money to be made. Worth getting the qualifications and then doing that though

who wouldn't want to respray their cars on the cheap?

At least I'd be taught it all properly, as opposed to trying to learn myself and just wasting shed loads of paint and whatnot
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not just being able to do it cheap, you'd need the tools the space lots more to it, than just rubbing down and painting in your garage
Root
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Originally posted by VrsTurbo
not just being able to do it cheap, you'd need the tools the space lots more to it, than just rubbing down and painting in your garage


this man speaks the truth
3CorsaMeal
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i've never had anyone teach me bodywork, but have just read the labels on stuff and had a go, seems quite an easy thing really, i don't see what people can teach you on the subject, apart from make it look right and use sandpaper in the correct grades

at least with mechanics there is a lot of theory and understanding that makes sense to learn.

althought the way cars are heading i see a lot of "mechanics" struggling with modern cars and their electrics or dealer only procedures
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Working in paint and body work if your starting your own buisness then there isnt alot of money in it as running costs are very high. But if you go in with a company then there is deffently money to be made.

Mechanics there is alot of money to be made if you do the right side of it. you can charge a bomb for engine changes and more custom work and in honesty its not overly hard to do an engine change when you know what your doing.
Root
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Originally posted by 3CorsaMeal
i've never had anyone teach me bodywork, but have just read the labels on stuff and had a go, seems quite an easy thing really, i don't see what people can teach you on the subject, apart from make it look right and use sandpaper in the correct grades

at least with mechanics there is a lot of theory and understanding that makes sense to learn.

althought the way cars are heading i see a lot of "mechanics" struggling with modern cars and their electrics or dealer only procedures

the only problem(s) I can see with doing mechanics, as you said, cars are becoming more computer-involved as time goes on.

Also the other people doing the course are likely to be, not to categorise people (even though I am), but chavs. You get a lot of thick-headed chavs on a course like that.

if I could get a job in a PROPER garage afterwards though, it'd be worth it
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quote:
Originally posted by Root
I've got part time work atm but I wanna do a college course.

I want to do body work because I want to:
-be able to paint my own car(s) cheaply
-repair bodywork cheaply

I want to do mechanics because there's a lot more mechanic jobs out there than body work jobs..



Call me silly, but you want to direct your live towards purusing a particular carrer purely so you can paint your own car and repair bodywork cheaply?

DaveyLC
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Originally posted by belton
Fairly poor reason to want to do bodywork, but yes easier to start your own company and more money to be made. Worth getting the qualifications and then doing that though


I disagree..

Its cheaper to start up as a mechanic, you can work mobile and start building up your tools.

As for a bodyshop you can't realistically do that mobile so you'll need premesis and then there are limitations on what you can and can't do in certain areas due to enviromental regulations.
Root
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Originally posted by Bart
quote:
Originally posted by Root
I've got part time work atm but I wanna do a college course.

I want to do body work because I want to:
-be able to paint my own car(s) cheaply
-repair bodywork cheaply

I want to do mechanics because there's a lot more mechanic jobs out there than body work jobs..



Call me silly, but you want to direct your live towards purusing a particular carrer purely so you can paint your own car and repair bodywork cheaply?



Sorry, please quote me where I said I want to make a career out of it, just because someone goes to college doesn't mean for a minute, they want a job in it. Some people just enjoy learning etc.
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Going to do a course to become a mechanic would be a complete waste of time, it'll be of no use at all unless you are doing it while working at a garage.

I hadn't read your above post before posting that, in that case it wouldn't be as useless.

Learning how to fix something when it breaks would be better though.

[Edited on 03-09-2010 by John]
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quote:
Originally posted by 3CorsaMeal
i've never had anyone teach me bodywork, but have just read the labels on stuff and had a go, seems quite an easy thing really, i don't see what people can teach you on the subject, apart from make it look right and use sandpaper in the correct grades




What an absolute load of shite.
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Awating Tomnova16 view on this riddle....
belton
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quote:
Originally posted by harrisp
quote:
Originally posted by 3CorsaMeal
i've never had anyone teach me bodywork, but have just read the labels on stuff and had a go, seems quite an easy thing really, i don't see what people can teach you on the subject, apart from make it look right and use sandpaper in the correct grades




What an absolute load of shite.


that is rediculous. I am guessing you read of the back of halfords tin. Or can u tell me the correct mix for 2k laquer?
And dave It is easier to start of your own mechanics as you said, start of mobile. But that takes a while to get your name about etc. Much easier to start a bodyshop and get a good reputation quickly. There are lots of garages compared to body shops
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Also the other people doing the course are likely to be, not to categorise people (even though I am), but chavs. You get a lot of thick-headed chavs on a course like that.

if I could get a job in a PROPER garage afterwards though, it'd be worth it


chavs? What's wrong with you! Have u even been there. All the chavs I know have jobs now or work in retail. Have you even been to the college?! Alot of my friends are doing mechanics courses and they are not chavy in the slightest. They are all passionate about cars and always willing to help me out or have a good conversation about cars etc
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become an auto-electrican, local bloke is really good at it and in demand, he even started employing about 4-5 people now.

plus electrics is a useful skill, most people are scared of electrics
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quote:
Originally posted by belton
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Originally posted by harrisp
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Originally posted by 3CorsaMeal
i've never had anyone teach me bodywork, but have just read the labels on stuff and had a go, seems quite an easy thing really, i don't see what people can teach you on the subject, apart from make it look right and use sandpaper in the correct grades




What an absolute load of shite.


that is rediculous. I am guessing you read of the back of halfords tin. Or can u tell me the correct mix for 2k laquer?



yes, halfords tins, p40 tin, p38 tin, got a little guide in magazine thats just seems common sense really. I did the same with detailing products/equipment, just read the labels and also looked on the internet.

i could google the 2k laquer mix if needed but i use the premixed stuff in spray cans
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Originally posted by 3CorsaMeal
become an auto-electrican, local bloke is really good at it and in demand, he even started employing about 4-5 people now.

plus electrics is a useful skill, most people are scared of electrics



electrics is a usefull skill but if you become an auto electrician personally i would want something else i could fall back on aswell
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2 laqure to 1 hardener is it not?...i done a set of wheels and never put enough hardner in the mix and 2 month later i can still push my nail through the laqure FAIL lol
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all i really meant was you shouldn't need to do a course in order to repair some bodywork cheaply on your own car.

if your talking of opening a professional business then yes, i don't think reading the guides in halfords quite cuts it
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i love it.... making life choices over whats going to save you a couple of quid modifying a shed
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as for jobs in bodywork, there isn't really any (im qualified to do it but there just isn't the jobs for it) if you can get a big space in a field with nothing near you you could do work yourself, if not you'd need a proper spray booth (looking at around £5k+) then couple of proper spray guns (£100 - £250 each) then a compressor, at look work to get set up
as for mechanics i don't know the job situation but surely you could do mechanics work on your drive for alot of people?
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Originally posted by 3CorsaMeal

yes, halfords tins, p40 tin, p38 tin, got a little guide in magazine thats just seems common sense really. I did the same with detailing products/equipment, just read the labels and also looked on the internet.

i could google the 2k laquer mix if needed but i use the premixed stuff in spray cans


Painting with acrylic rattle cans is NOTHING like painting with a gun and 2K... Even using a DA without fucking a pannel is a skill in its self.

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