Ojc
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Putting it on here as more people check here than WR
Graham did you get charged? I know Tony did.
A friend of mine had an interesting discussion with a police person in Nurburg yesterday. He got onto the topic that a bill for a recent smash up hadn't included any track closure time, and he was very suprised to hear a result.
Apparently Nurburgring GMBH have had to state officially in German court whether or not the Nordschleife is during touristenfharten either A: A public road or B: A private business enterprise. And they went with A, which means that they have no right to charge for track closures, which is very interesting.
Now I come to think about it, I know of three people who have caused track closures since May 2010 and not one of them has been charged for it.
Which is nice.
So, assuming this is all correct, given this is a court ruling and all, where do people stand on retrospectively claiming back track closure money or is that fully picking at the straw pile?
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Steve
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tony didnt, he got charged for having to have the track cleaner sent out as far as i remember,
in fact i cant recall any accident closing the ring last time i went which is interesting
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Ojc
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Will wait and see what Tony & Graham say.
At least it's something less to worry about 
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3CorsaMeal
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someone has to pay for all these wannabe race drivers in commerical cars
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Corsa_Sport21
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Dont crash and you wont get charged.
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Hammer
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quote:
Originally posted by 3CorsaMeal
someone has to pay for all these wannabe race drivers in commerical cars
This.
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harrisp
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quote:
Originally posted by Corsa_Sport21
Dont crash and you wont get charged.
Im sure much better drivers than you have crashed there.
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Ojc
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quote:
Originally posted by Hammer
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Originally posted by 3CorsaMeal
someone has to pay for all these wannabe race drivers in commerical cars
This.
Can't all be wheel spinning around our local council estates.
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mwg
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Handy to know seen as though I don't plan on going.
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Corsa_Sport21
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Originally posted by harrisp
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Originally posted by Corsa_Sport21
Dont crash and you wont get charged.
Im sure much better drivers than you have crashed there.
I have never been and have no interest in going,nor am i a race driver.
My comment stands in the fact quite a few people off here have went and crashed/written off theyr car.
Dont see the point in going when all i seem to hear about is folk crashing.
Its a very dangerous track so im led to beleive.
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Ben G
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you're argument makes no sense corsa_sport21.
people crash in this country all the time, does that mean we shouldn't drive on the roads here?
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Corsa_Sport21
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It makes sense to me Ben G.
Yes people crash on the road,but thats what we pay our insurance for.
Does your insurance policy cover you at the Ring??
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Butler
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quote:
Originally posted by Corsa_Sport21
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Originally posted by harrisp
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Originally posted by Corsa_Sport21
Dont crash and you wont get charged.
Im sure much better drivers than you have crashed there.
I have never been and have no interest in going,nor am i a race driver.
My comment stands in the fact quite a few people off here have went and crashed/written off theyr car.
Dont see the point in going when all i seem to hear about is folk crashing.
Its a very dangerous track so im led to beleive.
Its a risk. Risks are fun.
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Paul_J
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I've never crashed there
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JonnyJ
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quote:
Originally posted by Corsa_Sport21
It makes sense to me Ben G.
Yes people crash on the road,but thats what we pay our insurance for.
Does your insurance policy cover you at the Ring??
If its classed as a public road then it should do really
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Corsa_Sport21
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Oh yeah,im all for taking risks.
But taking your car around the Ring is a much higher risk than i would be willing to take.
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Butler
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quote:
Originally posted by Corsa_Sport21
It makes sense to me Ben G.
Yes people crash on the road,but thats what we pay our insurance for.
Does your insurance policy cover you at the Ring??
You can get insurance, no one bothers though. I can only think of two people who have crashed at the ring off here? Thats out of a lot of people who have been.
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Ben G
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quote:
Originally posted by Corsa_Sport21
It makes sense to me Ben G.
Yes people crash on the road,but thats what we pay our insurance for.
Does your insurance policy cover you at the Ring??
some do. if i was going to the ring i'd make sure i have adequate insurance cover, just like i would to drive on public roads here.
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Butler
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Originally posted by JonnyJ
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Originally posted by Corsa_Sport21
It makes sense to me Ben G.
Yes people crash on the road,but thats what we pay our insurance for.
Does your insurance policy cover you at the Ring??
If its classed as a public road then it should do really
I think 99% of insurers these days say 'excluding the nordschleife' somewhere in the small print 
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Corsa_Sport21
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I just wouldnt like to crash my car theyr and have to fork out on a few bills and then try get the car back home.
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Cole
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So out of all the people who have gone off only 2 have crashed and the other had a pas pipe split that's all the problems I've ever heard of don't sound like quite a few off here
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Graham88
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quote:
Originally posted by Corsa_Sport21
Dont crash and you wont get charged.
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Originally posted by Corsa_Sport21
I have never been and have no interest in going,nor am i a race driver.
Then kindly shut the fuck up then.
3 people commenting on crashing so far who have never been, I love the internet.
I didn't get charged Ollie, I begged the bloke not to close it  But I don't think he was going too. Will be interested to know if the bloke who crashed the VXR around there claims back as most of his Ring bill was closure of the track.
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Ian
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I think the helicopter would have bumped it up a touch.
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wilson_sri
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quote:
Originally posted by Graham88
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Originally posted by Corsa_Sport21
Dont crash and you wont get charged.
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Originally posted by Corsa_Sport21
I have never been and have no interest in going,nor am i a race driver.
Then kindly shut the fuck up then.
3 people commenting on crashing so far who have never been, I love the internet.
I didn't get charged Ollie, I begged the bloke not to close it But I don't think he was going too. Will be interested to know if the bloke who crashed the VXR around there claims back as most of his Ring bill was closure of the track.
What happened if you don't mind me asking?
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Corsa_Sport21
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Blame the statistics,not me.
Ive seen plenty of threads on different forums and other resources of folk crashing at the ring.Its not just once in a blue moon either that it happens.
What causes people to crash on an otherwise public road??Going past theyr own limits and driver capability??
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