205tom
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Got pulled over on 04/08/10 for plates not having british standard mark etc, told I would be getting a fine etc.
Finally today I've received a fixed penalty notice dated 11/10/10
So over three months after the offense and over a month since this letter was issued.
Do I have any grounds to tell them to GTF?
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VrsTurbo
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points or not?
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Nic Barnes
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no. all this 10 working day stuff is bollocks. if they have issued you with a fixed penalty notice, then you will either have to contest it or accept it. date is irrelevant.
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205tom
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Nah just a £60 fine
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ste_p23
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quote:
Originally posted by 205tom
Nah just a £60 fine
Take the fine and dont do it again then?
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Sam
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http://www.motorlawyers.co.uk/procedure/fixed_penalty_notice.htm
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As with a Summons, the Fixed Penalty must be issued within 6 months of the offence.
In short, you haven't got a leg to stand on if you wanted to contest the FPN.
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205tom
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That's alright just didn't know the facts n shiz
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Ben J
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quote:
Originally posted by 205tom
Got pulled over on 04/08/10 for plates not having british standard mark etc, told I would be getting a fine etc.
Finally today I've received a fixed penalty notice dated 11/10/10
So over three months after the offense and over a month since this letter was issued.
Do I have any grounds to tell them to GTF?
Did they spot that from a distance or did they pull you for something else?
My plates are blank apart from reg number. But i've got away with it for the last 6 years!
Never thought a copper would spot it! Even when I got pulled for speeding and let off, they never spotted it.
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205tom
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Pulled over as there smoked,also said 3d lettering was illegal
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John
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So it wasn't really the british standard bit, they pulled you for a crap plate.
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205tom
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Hah crap plate yea
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AK
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just pay the fine and get on with your life.
Strange you got £60 fine though.
I've just paid a £30 fine for not having a plate  (on rear of trailer)
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alan-g-w
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I thought you don't need the plate manufacturers' details on the bottom of the rear plate any more? You used to have to get the place you got it done and the post code but don't think you need it now.
retransfers.co.uk seems to back this up, note it doesn't say that there's any writing required underneath the lettering, plus you're allowed 3D writing as long as it's the standard font:
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SUMMARY: What is required and permitted on UK road-legal number plates
Required:
•White front plate (to British Standard BS AU 145d)
•Yellow rear plate (to British Standard BS AU 145d)
•The registration number of the bearer vehicle in the mandatory font (black ‘Charles Wright 2001’)
•Spacing of characters and character groups in accordance with the measurements specified in the regulations. Variation is not permitted
Permitted but not required:
•3D variation of the mandatory ‘Charles Wright 2001’ font
•Coloured, non-reflective border
•National emblem: English St George Cross with “ENG” legend, Scottish St Andrew Cross with “SCO” legend, Welsh Dragon with “WALES” and “CYMRU” legend, British Union Flag with “GB” legend) or Euro Stars symbol with “GB” legend.
No additions or variations are permitted. Common illegal variations are:
•Fancy or decorative typefaces
•Bolts placed in such a way as to alter the appearance of characters
•Adjusted spacing between characters or character groups
•Altered characters
•Additional logos or symbols, such as sporting emblems and religious symbols.
Stick a photo of your plate up if you have one mate, I think you could contest this.
[Edited on 27-11-2010 by alan-g-w]
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JaffaTB
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quote:
Originally posted by Ben J
Never thought a copper would spot it! Even when I got pulled for speeding and let off, they never spotted it.
same here, mine are plain except reg number
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kennySRi
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quote:
Originally posted by 205tom
Pulled over as there smoked,also said 3d lettering was illegal
Was about to say that i bet it was more than not having the british mark on it, i don't know anybody who has been caught for that and i have always had plain plates.
You deserve a fine and should of expected it, just pay up ffs
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kennySRi
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Originally posted by AK
just pay the fine and get on with your life.
Strange you got £60 fine though.
I've just paid a £30 fine for not having a plate (on rear of trailer)
A year or so ago the fine went upto £60 for all numberplate errors/etc.
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alan-g-w
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quote:
Originally posted by kennySRi
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Originally posted by 205tom
Pulled over as there smoked,also said 3d lettering was illegal
Was about to say that i bet it was more than not having the british mark on it, i don't know anybody who has been caught for that and i have always had plain plates.
You deserve a fine and should of expected it, just pay up ffs
I missed the fact they were smoked, that'll be why he's got a fine.
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AK
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quote:
Originally posted by kennySRi
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Originally posted by AK
just pay the fine and get on with your life.
Strange you got £60 fine though.
I've just paid a £30 fine for not having a plate (on rear of trailer)
A year or so ago the fine went upto £60 for all numberplate errors/etc.
must be different for trailers then as this was only about 15days ago
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kennySRi
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quote:
Originally posted by AK
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Originally posted by kennySRi
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Originally posted by AK
just pay the fine and get on with your life.
Strange you got £60 fine though.
I've just paid a £30 fine for not having a plate (on rear of trailer)
A year or so ago the fine went upto £60 for all numberplate errors/etc.
must be different for trailers then as this was only about 15days ago
May depend on which county you live in, or country in this case
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205tom
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Said plate, I know it's technically illegal due to it not having a white background,just seeing if there was any grounds on the time scale but it seems there's not!
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AndyKent
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So its a grey plate with 3d lettering without the (legally required) markings.
Just pay it
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random dav
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does the offence date say 11/10/10? even though you got pulled on 4/8/10? Is that what you mean? If so the offence date is wrong and you can tell them to do one. Problem with this country people just 'roll over' and put up with it
[Edited on 27-11-2010 by random dav]
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205tom
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No dav the offense date was 04/08,letter I got about payment was dated 11/10 requesting payment in 28 days but I've only received the letter on 26/11
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random dav
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so was the fine 30 quid before the 28 days was up then went to 60 after 28 days?
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205tom
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Believe it to have been £60 to start,as that's the first letter I've received
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