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Author Couple of really good films/docs that I have seen on youtube recently - Update - watch 'PRIMER'
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Was a bit bored over christmas so I had a good search on youtube for a few things that had been recommended to me to watch ...... well worth watching these imo.

Anybody got any other films ect they know are on youtube that are worth checking out?


Fog of War(2003)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIhLMJYpNcI

Saw this had won loads of awards in recent years - I can see why -

This is a must see imo - it sounds much heavier than it is. Some of the things this guy has to say in this film are astonishing - how close he feels we came to nuclear armagedon is amazing. Basically Robert MacNamara talking about his life backed up with loads of archive footage - he is a former US secretary of defence - was hired to the job by Jfk and had leading roles in vietnam and the cuban misile crisis. Before that he was the president of Ford, he basically invented the modern car package for Henry Ford - before that he flew a plane into Japan and basically wiped out most of the island with fire bombs during world war 2.

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Hoop dreams
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBF3ymDQJfU

How this didnt win an oscar I really dont know, its listed in most critics best film lists - epic documentary following two young black kids from the projects on their 5 year journey to make it from the ghetto to the NBA. Well worth a watch

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Ryme and Reason(1997)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpJqJHOPm6o

Best hip hop documentary I have seen - has all the main artists of the time involved - biggy, nas, wu, dre ect ect

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Michael Jordan To The Max
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ue8h-k8wJDY

Following Jordan during his last season for the bulls - the guy is a legend - this proves it

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Metalica - Some Kind Of Monster
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCtRwt30cd0

These guys are complete dicks imo - but a great band - and it makes for one of the best rock films I have seen

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Arnold Schwarzenegger - Pumping Iron
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WP7CrcNi93c

This is a pretty famous one - but I have never seen it before - unreal what these guys are doing to look like they do....good one if you need some gym inspiration

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Deep Water(2006)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rs3Be0klAvA

this is heavy going I warn you - but it is one of the best things i have watched recently

stunning true story of the first solo, non-stop, round-the-world boat race, and the psychological toll it took on its competitors - 10 months on your own in a boat in the 1960's, no gps, no sattelite, no long lasting food, no weather forcast- fuck that



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I used to have Rhyme and Reason on DVD as a youngster, brilliant.
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Michael Jordan To The Max
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ue8h-k8wJDY

Following Jordan during his last season for the bulls - the guy is a legend - this proves it

Just watched the first part, now I'll have to watch the rest of it tonight!
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its well worth a watch

There is another really good Jordan film on youtube - I will try and find the link ...it follows his college seasons and first nba season - its has all the best clips in it, but it has to be watched on mute because it is a vhs rip from america and it has the worst, most cheesy voiceover I have ever heard
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Deep Water(2006)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rs3Be0klAvA

Just watched the second half of this - it is a bit of a slow start - but fuck me its one of the most amazing things that has ever happened, amazed ive never heard it being talked about more
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Excellent link I'm very much into the whole JFK assassination and associated history. That's going to be a good watch!!
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Fog of War sounds good.
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Fog of Anus
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Fog of Breath directed by Craig Mitchell
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Fog of Roids directed by Andy Stocker
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Fog of fffrrr directed by Fad
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I watching FOW just now seems interesting indeed.
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That was fucking good
He seems very intelligent, president johnson seems like a typical American idiot, shoot now consequences later!
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That was fucking good
He seems very intelligent, president johnson seems like a typical American idiot, shoot now consequences later!



Glad you liked- quality watch
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You have no idea how much of a icebag you are looking at the tip of a very large iceberg SanDeel
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Anyone know of any good conspiracy films going round the net, feature length things like Loose Change and Zeitgeist, related to politics and/or money, I love these things
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The ones about Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin finding ancient ruins on the moon.
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You have no idea how much of a icebag you are looking at the tip of a very large iceberg SanDeel


I agree, obviously the guy couldn't say everything but still....
The guy seemed to live a quality life RIP
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I'll have to watch these now
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Michael Jordan is a fucking LEGEND
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Just watched The Terminator again ...

After I had a quick look on wikipedia - just trying to see why they picked Arnie for the part....

"Cameron was dubious about casting Schwarzenegger as Reese as he felt he would need someone even bigger to play the Terminator. The studio had suggested O. J. Simpson for the role of the Terminator, but Cameron did not feel that Simpson would be believable as a killer"

O'J's wife found him to be pretty believable as a killer
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Hicks was originally played by Remar, James, but Biehn, Michael replaced him a few days after principal photography began, due to "artistic differences" between Remar and director Cameron, James. Director of Photography Dick Bush was replaced after creative differences with James Cameron and Gale Ann Hurd. During the sequence in which Newt and Ripley are locked in MedLab, Ripley is attacked by one of the two facehuggers after setting off the sprinklers, resulting in the facehugger wrapping its tail around her neck after jumping off of a table leg. To film this, director James Cameron had the Special Effects crew design a facehugger fully capable of walking towards Ripley on its own, but to make it appear as if it jumps off of the table, Cameron used backwards-filming. He set up the facehugger on the table leg, then dragged it off and later edited the piece of film to play backward to make it appear to be moving forward towards Ripley. Crew thought that the fact that water was falling down during this whole scene would affect the sequence that was filmed backward (it would show the water moving up instead of down) In the end, the water was not visible enough to see the direction in which it was falling. According to the 1991 Special Widescreen Collector's Edition Laserdisc release of the movie (presented on the Bonus Disc of the 2003 Alien Quadrilogy DVD Box Set), James Cameron turned in the first treatment for the film, called Alien II at the time, on September 21, 1983. Some of the differences between this initial treatment and the final film included the following: The character of Carter Burke was absent, instead, his dialogue was given to someone named Dr. O'Niel, who did not join Ripley and the marines on their voyage to the colony planet. Instead of being taken to the Gateway Station, Ripley was taken to Earth Station Beta. The name of the colony planet was Acheron, taken from the script of Alien (1979), instead of LV-426. Ripley's daughter was alive, and Ripley had a disheartening videophone conversation with her, where she blamed Ripley for abandoning her by going to space. There were multiple atmospheric processors on the planet. The initial discovery of the aliens on the colony planet is much longer, where it is shown how Newt's father gets to the site of the eggs and is jumped by a facehugger. An additional scene involves a rescue team going to the site of the alien eggs and being jumped by tens of facehuggers. Sgt. Apone survives the initial attack. The aliens sting people to paralyze them before either killing or cocooning them. At one point Ripley, Newt and Hicks get cocooned. The aliens cocooning people are a different breed. They look like smaller, albino versions of the warrior aliens. Bishop refuses to land on the planet and pick up Ripley, Hicks and Newt, indicating "the risk of contaminating other inhabited worlds is too great." Ripley ends up using the colonists' shuttle to get back to the Sulaco. Bishop tells her: "You were right about me all along." The first draft script was turned in by James Cameron on May 30, 1985. This draft was very close to the final film Although the first script draft turned in on May 30, 1985 was very close to the final film, some scenes in this version were dropped in the final film. Those include: A shower scene with Ripley in a futuristic shower environment, Ripley going into more detail about the facehuggers while briefing the marines, calling the facehugger "a walking sex organ" to which Hudson replies: "Sounds like you, Hicks." There are thirty atmospheric processing units on the planet, as opposed to only one in the final film. Newt formally offering Ripley to be her daughter. Bishop encountering an alien while crawling along the tunnel. This scene also appeared in the final script but neither in the theatrical release nor in the Special Edition. The second drop ship refueling itself before leaving the Sulaco under Bishop's remote control. The first draft also included the scene with a cocooned Burke which was shot but not included in any of the versions of the movie. All of the cast who were to play the Marines (with the exception of Michael Biehn, who replaced an actor one week into filming) were trained by real Marines for a minimum of two weeks before filming. Sigourney Weaver, Paul Riser and William Hope didn't participate/attend the training because director James Cameron felt it would help the actors create a sense of detachment between the three and the Marines - the characters these three actors played were all outsiders to the squad; Ripley being an advisor to the Marines while on the trip to LV-426, Burke being there just for financial reasons and Gorman being a newly-promoted Lieutenant with less experience than most of the Marines. The preparation for the actors playing Colonial Marines included two weeks' training with the S.A.S. (Special Air Service, Britain's elite anti-terrorist force) and reading Robert Heinlein's novel "Starship Troopers". Biehn, Michael missed the training, as he was a last-minute replacement. The mechanism used to make the face-huggers thrash about in the stasis tubes in the science lab came from one of the "flying piranhas" in one of Cameron's earlier movies Piranha II: The Spawning (1981). It took nine people to make the face-hugger work; one person for each leg and one for the tail. The APC was a airport tug, de-commissioned by the local airport, with bits added to alter its appearance. Only six alien suits were used. The appearance of hundreds of aliens is simply clever editing and planning. The body mounts for Vasquez's and Drake's smart guns are taken from Steadicam gear. The pulse rifles that the Marines use are made from a Thompson M1A1 machine gun with a Franchi SPAS 12 shotgun underneath. The M-56 smart guns and the sentry guns built for the movie were designed around German MG 42 machine guns. The helmets the Marines wear are modified M-1 ballistic helmets. There were two versions of the "Bug Stompers" logo designed for the movie, one wearing sneakers, and one wearing combat boots as seen on the drop ship. A lightweight dummy model of Newt (Henn, Carrie) was constructed for Weaver, Sigourney to carry around during the scenes just before the Queen chase. The armor for the film was built by English armorer Terry English, and painted using Humbrol paints. The camo pattern worn by the marines is actually called "frog and leaf" and its use and production has been discontinued. None of the models or the original designs of the Narcissus (the Nostromo's shuttle) from Alien (1979) could be found, so set designers and model-makers had to reconstruct the model of the ship and the interior set from watching Alien (1979). Bishop's Knife trick was previously in Polanski, Roman's Knife in Water (1962) "Sulaco" is the name of the town in Conrad, Joseph's "Nostromo". See also Alien (1979). Biehn, Michael's character gets bitten on the hand by another character. This happens to him in every Cameron, James movie he's in - see Abyss, The (1989) and Terminator, The (1984). One of the sets was kept intact after filming. It was later used as the Axis Chemicals set for Batman (1989). The "special edition" includes extra scenes: Newt's parents discovering abandoned alien ship on LV-426, scenes of Ripley discussing her daughter, Hudson bragging about his weaponry, robot sentry guns repelling first alien raid, Hicks and Ripley exchanging first names. Also included is a scene on LV-426 where a child rides a low-slung tricycle similar to one ridden in Terminator, The (1984), also directed by Cameron, James. During the scene inside the APV preparing for battle, "El riesgo vive siempre!" can be seen scrawled in white across Vasquez's armor. Literally translated from Spanish this is: "The risk always lives!" Composer Horner, James cannibalized some of his scores from Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan and Star Trek III: The Search for Spock (1984). Matthews, Al, who plays a Marine sergeant in this film, was in real life the first black Marine to be promoted to the rank of sergeant in the field during service in Vietnam. A scene on the colony before the alien infestation was deleted from the final cut. Elements of that scene show up in later James Cameron projects. The line, "... and we always get the same answer: 'Don't ask'" was used in Terminator 2: Judgment Day (1991). The character name "Lydecker" was used in "Dark Angel". All the marines (with the exception of Hicks, Gorman and Ripley) use their real life first names as their characters' first names. In both the standard and special addition VHS versions, the fifteen minute countdown at the end of the film is indeed fifteen minutes. Ripley's (Weaver, Sigourney) daughter was played by Weaver's mother. Director's Trademark (James Cameron): [nice cut]: a few minutes into the movie, we see Ripley lying in the cryo-tube, and then the scene fades to the picture of the earth; the earth directly fits into the silhouette of Ripley's face. Director's Trademark (James Cameron): [feet]: When the soldiers arrive on LV426 and jump out of the armoured vehicle. See also Abyss, The (1989). Director's Trademark (James Cameron): [feet]: When Ripley drives the APC, she crushes an alien's head under one of the wheels. Director's Trademark (James Cameron): [feet]: close-ups of the power-lifter's feet. Director's Trademark (James Cameron): [nuke] Sigourney Weaver told James Cameron that she wanted to do three things in the movie; not handle a weapon, die, and make love to an alien. While none of these wishes were fulfilled, she got to do all three in the later movies. While salary negotiations were going on with Sigourney Weaver to reprise her character in the second movie, the studio asked James Cameron to work on an alternative storyline excluding Ripley, but Cameron indicated the series is all about Ripley and refused to do so. Lance Henriksen wanted to wear double-pupil contact lenses for a scene where Bishop is working in the lab on a microscope and gives a scary look at one of the marines. He came to set with those lenses, but James Cameron decided he did not need to wear them because he was acting the character with just the enough amount of creepiness already. There was talk of bringing H. R. Giger back for the second movie to do more design work, but James Cameron decided against it because there was only one major design to be done, that of the Alien Queen, which Cameron had already done some drawings of. A set design company offered to build James Cameron a complete and working APC vehicle from scratch, but the cost was way to high for the budget James Cameron had in mind. James Cameron had several designers come up with ideas for the drop ship that took the marines from the Sulaco to the planet. Design after design, he finally gave up on them to come up with on he liked and constructed his own drop ship out of a model of an apache helicopter and other spare model pieces. Bishop's Knife trick was also previously seen in John Carpenter's Dark Star (1974). Like Bishop, Boiler misses too. Frost and Spunkmeyer mention Arcturans. In The Hitch Hiker's To The Galaxy series, various Arcturan species are mentioned. The baby alien bursting from the colonist's chest clearly has a pair of more-or-less functioning arms. This is different from the final model infant used in Alien (1979) which originally had arms, but director Ridley Scott thought they didn't, or wouldn't, look right, so he had them removed. When the set crews were looking around for floor grating to use on the Sulaco set design, they asked a local set design manufacturer/shop if they had anything of the sort. Indeed they did, an immense pile of old floor grating had been sitting out in the back of their shop for the last seven years. It was left there from when they tore down the set of Alien (1979). Bishop states that he cannot "harm a human, or through inaction, allow one to come to harm." This is the First Law of Robotics as written by science fiction author Isaac Asimov. The pouch Ripley takes onto the lift at the end of the movie is a British Armed Forces respirator haversack. Like most films, the movie wasn't shot in sequence. But for added realism, Cameron filmed the scene where we first meet the Colonial Marines (one of the earliest scenes) last. This was so that the camaraderie of the marines was realistic because the actors had spent months filming together. Cameron had the actors (the marines) personalize their own costumes (battle armor and fatigues) for added realism (much like soldiers in Vietnam wrote and drew things on their own helmets). Actress Cynthia Dale Scott, who plays Cpl. Dietrich has the words "BLUE ANGEL" written on the back of her helmet. Marlene Dietrich was of course the star of Blaue Engel, Der (1930) or Blue Angel. Bill Paxton has "Louise" written on his armor. This is a dedication to his real-life wife, Louise Newbury. The JP12 Designation in the Inner Loading Lock chamber on the Sulaco was also used in Batman (1989) on the Batwing right near the missile launchers. The MedLab door open/close sound effect is the travel pod door open/close sound effect from 2001: A Space Odyssey. In the scene in the air shaft where Vasquez shoots the alien with a handgun, Jenette Goldstein could not handle the recoil of the gun properly. As a result, producer Gale Ann Hurd doubled for Vasquez in shots where the gun is fired. She was the only woman available who had experience firing handguns. Three different types of smoke were used in the film, one of which has since become illegal to be used on movie sets. One of the face-hugger eggs used in the movie is now exhibited in the Smithsonian Museum in Washigton, D. C. The Alien Queen has transparent teeth, as opposed to the warrior aliens. Due to budget constraints, several mirrors were used in the first scene aboard the Sulaco to show more cryogenic sleeping chambers than there actually were. The initial cinematographer was Dick Bush. However, director James Cameron (I) fired him a month into production because he wasn't satisfied with the lighting, and the two men reportedly hated working with each other. Cameron then tried to hire Derek Vanlint, the DP on the previous film. Vanlint wasn't interested, but recommended Adrian Biddle for the job. Sigourney Weaver threatened to not do any more "Alien" movies after seeing the movie's final cut, so as a compromise, the 1987 Special Edition was released on Laser-Disc The town in which the colonist live is called Hadley's Hope.
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Paul Riser and William Hope didn't participate/attend the training because director James Cameron felt it would help the actors create a sense of detachment between the three and the Marines


Strongly agree with this bit
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Primer

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhudoFlLD-E

woooow - watch this film- its a head melter. Basically a group of scientists accidentally create time travel .... brilliant film, dont worry if you dont know what the fuck is going on at times - your not always supposed to ...my head nearly popped thinking about stuff in this film lol



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