Bettley
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Registered: 9th Sep 08
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Some of you no i did a track day in my old xe corsa, and it rained all day and the car was rubbish ,
But i have booked one now, in the tigra , and now im thinking is it gona be worse due to weight ?
help guys need some advice how to make it handle better etc
its on fk coilovers on the fornt and lowerd on the back 60mm
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mike56gte
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Registered: 23rd Jun 09
Location: Fife, scotland Drives: Audi S3
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have you stripped it?
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mike56gte
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Registered: 23rd Jun 09
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tyres are a big factor?
could have the best suspension set up but if your rollin on £20 ditch finders you'll not get very far
[Edited on 14-03-2011 by mike56gte]
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Ojc
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Registered: 14th Nov 00
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You can't just throw coilovers on it and expect miracles.
What condition are the bushes/top mounts/balljoints/steering components in?
Tyres? Like Mike has said tyres are the most important thing about the cars handling, get some GOOD tyres on.
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Bettley
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its running toyo proxes all round, all bushes etc are in good con,
its Back end has been striped before it got it,
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IvIarkgraham
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whiteline rear arb, remove front arb
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Bettley
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no front anti rollbar anyways
I mean on my 1st trackday in the corsa, the arse end was everywhere
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Jack1.6valver
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Registered: 4th Jan 08
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remove front arb? doe this make the front end less stiff resulting in less understeer? still got mine on my valver but never had it out yet to see what steering issues the valver may have!
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FAZ
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Registered: 24th Nov 07
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upper and lower arb
tyres
semi soft spring / shocks-40mm all round
in my opnion
[Edited on 14-03-2011 by FAZ]
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mike56gte
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Registered: 23rd Jun 09
Location: Fife, scotland Drives: Audi S3
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quote: Originally posted by Jack1.6valver
remove front arb? doe this make the front end less stiff resulting in less understeer? still got mine on my valver but never had it out yet to see what steering issues the valver may have!
i dont have one on mine jock. does seem to handle well although you need an uprated rear arb for the full benefit.
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Scotty C
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Registered: 6th Nov 05
Location: Kidderminster Drives: 1.6 16v Sport
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quote: Originally posted by Bettley
no front anti rollbar anyways
I mean on my 1st trackday in the corsa, the arse end was everywhere
A rear ARB will make the world of difference.
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Steve
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Registered: 30th Mar 02
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the arse end was everywhere because you were throwing the car in too fast and lifting off/braking mid corner.
Throttle modulation is key, and dont lift off/brake mid corner
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Scotty C
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quote: Originally posted by Steve
the arse end was everywhere because you were throwing the car in too fast and lifting off/braking mid corner.
Throttle modulation is key, and dont lift off/brake mid corner
Excellent bit of advice there.
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Fro
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STAY COMMITTED.
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AK
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quote: Originally posted by Steve
the arse end was everywhere because you were throwing the car in too fast and lifting off/braking mid corner.
Throttle modulation is key, and dont lift off/brake mid corner
Normally the case... but it'll just brake away even at slow speeds if the setup is mince.
My old corsa suspension was gone by the time I sold it. It used to just step out at speed on constant radius corners... mid corner... with no change in speed (i.e no lifting, braking or introduction of power.)
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AK
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quote: Originally posted by fro-dizzle
STAY COMMITTED.
yup...
If the rear steps out in a FWD just floor it and steer where you want to go
Used to drive the 205 trackcar in some interesting manners on certain corners.... either by braking into the corner or lifting violently and turning to get the rear lose and car pointing towards the exit
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Bettley
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quote: Originally posted by Steve
the arse end was everywhere because you were throwing the car in too fast and lifting off/braking mid corner.
Throttle modulation is key, and dont lift off/brake mid corner
Could of been that, but even if i went slow into the corner it was still a mess
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Steve
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have all your braking done in straight line
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Bettley
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yeah before the corner, then go into the corner smoothly
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AK
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pah.... trail braking is more fun in a shite handling car
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richc
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Worse thing i did in my old corsa was stripp the back end out. Distribution was all wrong.
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Bettley
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yeah ii noticed that, i straped to big van wheels in for more weight during the day it was that bad
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Scotty C
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What about corners that start loose then end up going tight? As you'll have NO choice but to brake mid-corner surely?
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McWillster
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Braking mid corner is not a complete no no. As said smoothness would be the key in a bend that tightens. Flying in then harking on the brakes is only going to find the back end jerking out.
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Steve
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hardest corner is that first fucking right hander on the ring gp track, impossible to take that one correctly
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