Christopher
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Whats a good average price for one of these?
What are they like to drive?
Common problems to look for?
Good and bad bits?
Im looking into getting one next and just want to know the in's and out's of them so any help is much appreciated 
Any pictures feel free to add 
[Edited on 27-10-2011 by Christopher]
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SetH
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Buyers Guide
Exterior
Check for the normal scratches and dents etc. Also check the sills of the car for bending whilst not a huge issue it doesn’t look good and shows poor signs of the car being jacked/possible accident damage.
One thing to check is the presence of a sticker on the drivers door which tells you the oval plate details of the car. If this is missing then it can show that the cars been resprayed and the sticker not replaced etc. The VIN is also available from the passenger side of the car down the bottom of the windscreen, viewable form the outside and also under the bonnet.
If the car isn’t a 182 Cup or 172 Cup check the front xenon washer jet balls are there and work as they are a common failure point and whilst there are a few fixes none are perfect. You have the choice of either:
New washer jet i.e. bumper off and replace – may well fail again
- Just swapping the washer jet ball as its less effort than taking the bumper off- may fail again though.
- Superglue the ball back in place and ake sure you get it in the right position otherwise you’ll need to buy a new one. This can be a good method if you get it right.
- Unplug the jets as it’s easy to do. All you need to do is unplug the lines from behind the jets so there are no leaks. Just remember to bung/block up the pipes. Legally they are supposed to be connected all the time.
Check for accident damage as it’s a hot hatch. More so in the case of the 172 Cup as they do get crashed and sometimes have bodged repairs.
They shouldn’t rust at all really as the protection is very good. The only possible place is the chassis frame under the car if you jack on them it can peal the under seal off over time. Also remember to check in the boot under the carpet for any deformation.
Check if you are looking at a 172 Cup or a 182 Cup or a 182 with the cup packs. Check at the front of the car under the bumper for a small black plastic splitter. They are not cheap (£130ish) and break a lot. They should be fitted but often they are damaged or not fitted new and owners don’t care or don’t know that they are missing.
Check under the front of the car for the under bonnet cover. It’s a big plastic cover under the engine although only thin plastic it helps keeps the underside of the engine clean and catches any oil drips.
If the Clio had the original factory option of Sat Nav bare in mind that the disks for updating them are not cheap.
Check the rear lights work fully. If they don’t it could be down to a poor earth connection.
Mechanics
If you are looking at a normal 182 (non cup) make sure it has the engine cover.
Have a good look at the exhaust, they have a habit of rusting and then eventually falling off! After market exhausts are a lot better but can be quite expensive.
There are 3 types on 182, the normal 182, 182 Cup or 182 Trophy. The normal 182 is sometimes known as the ‘Full Fat’ as it has the half leather seats, xenon headlights, climate control etc.
Then there’s the 182 Cup this has both suspension and spoiler/splitter packs as standard but doesn’t have the leather seats xenon’s or climate (it has air con instead).
You can get the normal 182 with the Cup Packs (known as Full Fat). You can tell by the ride height:
60mm means you have the cup suspension pack
54mm means you don’t have the cup suspension pack
Check the oil level. Pretty obvious really but remember to use a decent, quality oil.
Interior
Rattles and squeaks are very common. The most common rattle is from above the clocks on the dash and can be a pain to get rid of.
The seats should be in good condition and are usually quite hard wearing.
Steering wheels tend to have a habit of melting or just wearing out. This can be sorted under warranty but if the car is not under warranty anymore can be expensive to change.
Check the seat belts work properly and go back into place. After only 20k miles my drivers seatbelt doesn’t wind back in very well – common problem again.
Check the air conditioning, if its weak and doesn’t get very cold it could simply need re-gassing.
Check under the passenger seat for presence of a CD changer. If the CD changer cable is there then there was one fitted and someone has removed it. Remember some cars didn’t have them as standard though (182 Cup for example).
172 phase 1 had them as standard
172 phase 2 (early models only) had them as standard
182 had then as an option only.
The airbag warning light can sometimes come on. The most common issue is the wiring under the seats going wrong, the fix is detailed here: http://www.cliosport.net/forum/showthread.php?t=108607
Driving
The handling should be very good as its one of the things that got it a good reputation so anything untoward should raise suspicion.
Check the car stops and steers straight as the brakes are superb on the car. Tracking can be an issue but it might just need adjusting. The 182 alloy wheels don’t allow much cooing to the brakes so this is something to bare in mind. If you get brake fade after such a short period of time then it might just mean the brakes need to bled.
When driving the car at high revs lift off the throttle and check for engine shake. If its really bad then the engine will knock itself out of gear. Its caused by the engine mounts wearing/moving. It’s usually the dog bone one which is quite cheap and quick to replace. It is worth sticking with the standard engine mounts.
The gearboxes have a bit of a reputation as they tend to feel quite weak compared to one found in a Volkswagen etc. This is quite normal.
The clutch is very heavy and has a high bite point. The clutch release bearing can wear a lot so stick the car into neutral and with your foot down you’ll hear it whine. This can be normal but bare in mind that clutches have been known to go.
PAS (Power Assisted Steering) can be a bit noisy on the Clios. However the 182 is quieter due to the pipes being changed. Pipes can leak so check the fluid level.
When you start the car from cold you’ll notice that the idle isn’t great. This is due to the engine mapping but is quite normal. Obviously if its hugely erratic or on the verge of stalling every time walk away!
Things to check when driving
The temp gauge goes up to the middle and doesn’t move. If it does go up and down then it shows a faulty temp sensor. This can be a common issue and is quite cheap to sort out.
When cold the car has a lower red line about 6k leave it to warm up and it goes up to 7.2k.
Service History
Check the AUX belt has been changed every 36k miles. It is not cheap as its 2.7 hours labour if you have a car with air con or 5 minutes if your lucky and have a normal 172 Cup. The servicing used to allow the belt to stay as with the cam belt to 72k hence why many dealers think its Ok to leave them that long however there were so many failures that the service rules were changed down to 36k at a maximum. When they do fail they make a right mess of the engine. 99.9% of the time it will take out the cam belt so your looking at least £1k at best since it will have wrecked the valves etc. Price
The best thing to do is check against other prices on Auto Trader, Parkers, Piston Heads etc. This will give you some idea of a value.
Extra things to check
Check that the two keys are present and both work (at £120 or so minimum for a replacement its worth checking)
Check the locking wheel nut keys (there should be two) are present and correct and ideally check they work.
In the case of 182′s and 172 Cups check that the bottles of tyre foam inflator are present (only cheap but worth a few quid discount)
Remember imported 172′s don’t have (as standard) locking wheel nuts (one per wheel), window etching, alarm fitted as standard.
*Taken from Clio Sport
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Jambo
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Excellent to drive
Common probs:
Engine mounts, exhaust mounts, melted steering wheels, shocks leaking, snapped springs, exhausts rusting, misfire
Good bits: Bout them most fun you can have in a car for little money.
Bad bits: Parts can be expensive, everything rubber needs replacing all the time, needs recaros as std seats are poo. Interior is very 1990's/cheap. But shouldnt rattle. The FF 182 has all the toys, digi climate and auto lights/wipers etc
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N3CRO
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My sister just sold her 172 Cup 52 plate, very good condition for £2,200. Think thats about average for a Cup, should get the non Cups for around £1,600-1,800 easy.
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sc0ott
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Brilliant little cars. I had the 182 and with the 172 cup wheels they look 10x better.
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gez bay
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good fun cars. i'd still have mine if i didnt need a diesel
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Corsa_Sport21
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Timing belt is a specialist job only and will cost thousands.
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Baskey
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Yea cam belts should only be changed by someone who is trained by NASA
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Chris F
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Phase 1s are going for about 1200-1500 here
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N3CRO
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quote:
Originally posted by Corsa_Sport21
Timing belt is a specialist job only and will cost thousands.
Renault quoted us £900 to do it, hardly thousands... unless you were being sarcastic.
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Liam-Wilko
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my mate loves clio sports and has had a few and done alll sorts of work to them he took me out in his 172 with a few mods and sat amazing at 150mph and still wanted more i was extreamly suprised by it and it handled amazing
edit= and i dont really like meny french cars lol but was inmpresed by my mates clio sport
[Edited on 27-10-2011 by liam-corsa-1400]
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Christopher
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Thanks everyone
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gez bay
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belts will cost around £450-500 by a specialist garage.
or if it is a cup without A/C its around £250
DO NOT take it to a normal garage to do the belts, go to one that deals with renaultsport's have a look on cliosport.net and you'll see what i mean.
[Edited on 27-10-2011 by gez bay]
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Christopher
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ok will do if i get one 
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gez bay
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put the links on here to the ad's so we can help you
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Corsa_Sport21
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quote:
Originally posted by TheNobleOne
quote:
Originally posted by Corsa_Sport21
Timing belt is a specialist job only and will cost thousands.
Renault quoted us £900 to do it, hardly thousands... unless you were being sarcastic.
No.
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Christopher
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Anyone got any pictures of ones they like? or of your own
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N3CRO
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Heres my sisters old one...
Was standard bar a cone filter.
Was great to drive once I got used to the crappy clutch position. Had a fair few problems with it over the 3+ years she had it so had quite a few quid spent on repairing it.
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Christopher
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My mrs had a standard clio and i noticed the clutch position was really high and a small biting point on them but i suppose id get used to it! 
Just a few ive been looking at on the bay! Wont be getting them as dont have the money yet but am i looking at the right sort of things, are they priced about right? Thanks for your help
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=330627923241&category=9861&_trksid=p5197.c0.m619
High mileage but i love the colour and look of this one
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/RENAULT-CLIO-RENAULTSPORT-182-SPORT-2005-NEW-MILTEC-EXHAUST-/280760300601?_trksid=p5197.m7&_trkparms=algo%3DLVI%26itu%3DUCI%26otn%3D5%26po%3DLVI%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D3773083707432325693
Is high mileage common? Does it matter?
[Edited on 27-10-2011 by Christopher]
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Baskey
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Mines on 120k and engine still pull like a train. Rest of the car is fucked though however that's mainly due to me driving it into the ground as it's not really worth anything
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Christopher
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Quite a few people have high mileage sports by the looks of them with no problems! I just know if i was looking at a corsa with 130,000 miles on the clock id shy away!
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SetH
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ROFLMFAO @ 172/182's "sitting at 150mph" 
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Christopher
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davieslim
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im going to replace my corsa with one, but gonna wait till after christmas and hopefully get a nice cup
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22B
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I dont get all the stuff about needing Renault experts to change the cambelt? Its a Renault Clio and any decent mechanic worth his salt will cope just fine. Theres nothing complicated about doing a cambelt on these, just the access is a bit awkward but not the worst cambelt in the world to change.
Ive seen a couple changed without the correct locking pins, and guess what they still run spot on, take it to a good mechanic that you trust and you will be fine.
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