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philrussell81
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6th Nov 11 at 12:55   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

any of the older people here gone back to college to learn a 'trade'?

im 30 and in full time work, but want to go back to college and do plumbing, or something along those lines.

obv it will have to be an after hours night course due to work. does anyone else do anything like this?

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Doesn't work, you have to do an apprenticeship to have any chance of getting a job.
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You could go to college and learn and then start up your own business
philrussell81
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thats along the lines i was thinking. learn at college and then start a small business locally
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I'm in my second year at college studying electrical installation. I have an apprenticeship placement to make it easier for me to learn the trade at the same time. glad i done it as if i didn't i would have been stuck doing shit retail or warehouse work for the rest of my life. the college im at does day release which i took or 3 nights a week which means you complete it a year quicker
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i went at 22, did mechanics but thenused those qualies to come to uni to do engineering.
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quote:
Originally posted by adiohead
You could go to college and learn and then start up your own business


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i went at 22, did mechanics but thenused those qualies to come to uni to do engineering.


did you have a full time job at the same time?

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i was in college 2.5 days, was working full time as a claims handler in insurance beforehand and went part time at work, £2.5 days gave me £150 a week then i got bar work at weekends.
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what course did you do? did it relate to your job? or was it something totally different?
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You can go and do plumbing at college but you still need a work placement to become a qualified plumber.
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i wasted two years doing mechanics full time course and now i stack shelves at asda part time
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quote:
Originally posted by philwestwood
what course did you do? did it relate to your job? or was it something totally different?



motor vehicle maintenance and repair, NC and ND. not related to work
philrussell81
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I'm gonna have a look at a prospectus tomorrow while I'm at work. If they don't do night classes then there is no point in me doing it
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In 24 and after being made redundent from AG i decided to learn a trade, i do 2 days a week at college studying plumbing, i have been there since september, work warehouse 3 days a week, earn about 160/170 a weekand also had a few on-the-side jobs, a neighbour was guna get someone in to redo her guttering as hers was broken and leaking from several places, i told her get a quote n i'll beat it by £100, she got quoted £600 for new guttering front and back and downpipe, i couldnt believe it

So said id have a go, ordered parts from wickes, cost me £97, felt so bad like i was ripping her off, so told her n she said if she was happy with it there she'd pay what she thought......she paid the full £500

Gotta say from all this i learnt about putting up guttering in my first few months of college and it took me about 5 - 6 hours one saturday in the half term

Do it, when you start getting work you will reap the benefits

Also gotta say my neighbour has passed my number around n also had people call about cleaning guttering and other odd jobs, and like i keep saying ive only been at college since september
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Plumbers don't do guttering.
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Clearly they do
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funny old plumbing course if they taught you guttering
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quote:
Originally posted by Jake
funny old plumbing course if they taught you guttering


Funnily enough,

There is quite a big cross over from plumbing to roof work because of the lead work link.

http://www.rftraining.co.uk/plumbing-courses/

It also (sort of) falls into 'above ground drainage'
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Doesn't work, you have to do an apprenticeship to have any chance of getting a job.




This.

They should tell you all this before really instead of filling your head with bullshit about you being able to get a job with level 3 of whatever your course is . Need to have experience for anything
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Either way, it's work, it's a trade, it's word of mouth and it's good news for someone who wants to work locally and earn an income.

Largely academic what it's called, if you're not clear on the path anyway falling in to guttering and roof repairs and taking that up full time is equally as good an outcome as calling yourself a plumber and doing interior only.

And most of it is preferable to training in something then not finding work. Completely a good outcome to go get work in the real world, preferable to sitting at a computer being a grumpy pedant.

[Edited on 07-11-2011 by Ian]
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We only covered guttering at college as we were a week ahead of ourselves therefore the tutors decided to teach abit about drainage and guttering and different types of waste pipes leading from your house, thats when they said its good to how to put up guttering as theres no real qualifications for it yet can be a big money earner doing that and facias so thats why

Just thought id let you know my tutor has only been a tutor for 3 years, prior to that he has been a self employed plumber for 25 years, only gave it up as wanted something easy and warm but still to do with plumbing
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quote:
Originally posted by John
Plumbers don't do guttering.


Yes they do and lead work on roofs is traditionally a plumbers job rather than a roofers.
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quote:
Originally posted by John
Plumbers don't do guttering.




When I was at college we'd form a section of roof, that would then get slated and the plumbers would use it to learn leadwork and guttering.

The main contractor I do work for use the plumbing firm to do all rain water pipes unless it's specialist seamless gutters. They also do the more complicated lead work where needed.
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Steady on guys, dont you realise that John has spoken? His opinion instantly becomes fact, the moment he says it.

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