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Ojc
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9th Dec 11 at 16:50   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
Ive got a set of brand new Toyo T1Rs I'm the garage 205/45/17 I wondered would it be detrimental to the Clios handling if I put them on (Clio runs 215/45/17) is that 10mm difference?
Ben G
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they would be stretched a little, thats all.

i always thought the wider the tyre, the more grip you have.

10mm in winter isn't going to do any terrible damage to the handling though.
Rob R
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You are correct. 10mm counts, ask any woman.
Ben G
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smcGSI16V
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They will also have a slightly smaller side wall as well by about 4mm.
AK
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i'd say narrower is better in winter (snow/wet)
Jake
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narrower tyres are better in snowy conditions aswel
Jed D
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quote:
Originally posted by AK
i'd say narrower is better in winter (snow/wet)



this ^

also toyo seem to have a thinner rubber side wall to them imo
Steve
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wont make any difference imo, if anything may stiffen up the tyre wall roll slightly
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On the civic it had the oposite. 205/45/17 is OEM and it had 215/40/17 dont know why. Fitted ok though and im glad I had them now I have upgraded to wider wheels.

How come you got a different size

Drives supercharged Tec with torque
Warren G
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9th Dec 11 at 17:57   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
Personaly i wont fit thoes tyres, im in love with my p-zero's

its fun seeing how fast you can go in the wet
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It would turn in faster and therefore be more nippy IMO
Gareth F
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quote:
Originally posted by Warren G
Personaly i wont fit thoes tyres, im in love with my p-zero's

its fun seeing how fast you can go in the wet



Just ran a set of them and cant rate the enough, shame i cant afford them this time round

Looking at falkens this time.
3CorsaMeal
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I honestly use cheapo tyres and never crashed. Never understood this anal view on tyres people have.

Especially if the same people are part of the mpg bum boys gang.
Warren G
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Crashing is something totaly different

ive run budgets and havent crashed.

Cheap tyres and wet runs = fun
Rob B
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9th Dec 11 at 19:39   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
Toyo's are cack.
LeeM
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quote:
Originally posted by Gareth F
quote:
Originally posted by Warren G
Personaly i wont fit thoes tyres, im in love with my p-zero's

its fun seeing how fast you can go in the wet



Just ran a set of them and cant rate the enough, shame i cant afford them this time round

Looking at falkens this time.


I've got p-zero neros on my c, great tyres
DERV-POWER
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9th Dec 11 at 20:06   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
falkens are good when new but when they get abit old they are rubbish
has anyone tried yoko ad08

[Edited on 09-12-2011 by DERV-POWER]
Ben G
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i've had p-zero nero's on 2 cars now and they are average at best.

conti's were great but wore so quick.
Warren G
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average? realy?

Ad08 arent realy normal road tyres?
ShEp
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I'd say it would have a detrimantal effect on the handling.

It will be a more rigid tyre, meaning more understeer
SetH
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Quite possibly marginally less tramlining.
Ben G
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quote:
Originally posted by Warren G
average? realy?

Ad08 arent realy normal road tyres?


they seem to break traction easily in the wet, wear quick and dont grip as well in the dry as other decent branded tyres. all personal opinion though.
Nic Barnes
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10th Dec 11 at 02:53   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
Personally found toyo t1r's to be very mediocre. Quite an average mid range tyre at best. I would have a fallen 912 over a t1r but that's my opinion. Doesn't mean I'm correct for other peoples driving styles etc.
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quote:
Originally posted by Nic Barnes
Personally found toyo t1r's to be very mediocre. Quite an average mid range tyre at best. I would have a fallen 912 over a t1r but that's my opinion. Doesn't mean I'm correct for other peoples driving styles etc.

agreed

t1-r's i thought was good. i then tried parada's and now t1-r's seem awful!

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