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Tiger
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Interesting read:

http://bbc.in/wrdnZU

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So what are the figures? There are currently seven billion people alive today and the Population Reference Bureau estimates that about 107 billion people have ever lived.
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pretty fucking obvious without a news report
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Yep. Number of living will never beat number of dead. Maybe at the start of life itself this would of been worth while lol

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oh is it jake? thanks for stating that.
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The number of living could conceivably outnumber the dead.

Obviously not the case here but it's probably been the case at some point.
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Don't have the maths to hand here but if you have 7% it will double every 10 years, and if it doubles consistently, you have more in the most recent decade than the sum of all the previous decades

Think the rate is less than that though?
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I dunno really, the law of inverse proportions apply.
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like jake said. pretty obvious.
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Originally posted by Nic Barnes
oh is it jake? thanks for stating that.


i wasnt telling everyone that
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Its not obvious, there would be growth rates at which it wouldn't be the case.

In fact if you lengthen the sample period of a decade to a century or longer, it needs less than 7%.

The only thing that skews it is the life expectancy of people years ago and the fact they didn't live long enough to have children. Although those people would contribute less in total to someone who did have children, who would therefore be responsible for a lot more people.

[Edited on 04-02-2012 by Ian]
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ok going off wiki the modern human has been around for 250000 years. multiply that by a very low average number and it still comes back to more than living people
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It's not multiplied by an average though, all it take is for there to be 100 people alive for 10 years then the next 10 the population increases 100 fold.
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whats that all about? why not simplify it by taking a count of living people right now, go back say 150 years and from them take a count of deaths
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It's not that simple.
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It's not that simple.


this explains where there's a recession
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It's not that simple.


A male and female get together, have ten kids, all of whom out live their parents and no doubt produce more kids in the original parents lifetime.

If the generation of offspring isn't curtailed by resources the answer would appear obvious no?
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Unfortunately the real world is full of things that mean big ups and downs.

As said, the case currently means the dead vastly outweigh the living, it would be easily conceivable for that to not have always been the case.
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I would love to know the exact crossover point, even though its impossible to make anything other than an educated guess.
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The world can not support 108 bn people so it will always be the case.
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Who gives a flying fuck?
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If you've got a spare hour give this a try -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-QA2rkpBSY
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lol i love the little table at the end of that report - 50000BC - population 2...

Keeping the bible bashers happy with that one??
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So it's just like jake says, pretty obvious.

[Edited on 05-02-2012 by Nic Barnes]
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How much can earth hold before it starts to drop in space?
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So based on that 7% equation there will be a time when more people are alive then ever lived, therefore the living out number the dead ! (I think)

So in each persons life time on average, there would be a 70% demand increase on resources, rather scray stuff but if only that was correct on uk fuel !

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