mattant
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Not sure if this affects anyone here, but cars made before 1960 are now exempt from MOTs because the government believes only enthusiasts own them and so they are looked after:
Classic and historic vehicles are to be exempted from yearly MoT tests, the government has announced.
Vehicles manufactured before 1960 will no longer have to have to pass an MoT from 18 November, Roads Minister Mike Penning said.
The vehicles make up about 0.6% of the total number of licensed vehicles in Britain but are involved in just 0.03% of road casualties and accidents.
Mr Penning said the government was committed to cutting out red tape which cost motorists money "without providing significant overall benefits".
"Owners of classic cars and motorbikes tend to be enthusiasts who maintain their vehicles well - they don't need to be told to look after them, they're out there in all weathers checking the condition of the engine, tyres and bodywork," he said.
"Owners of classic vehicles will still be legally required to ensure that they are safe and in a proper condition to be on the road but scrapping the MoT test for these vehicles will save motorists money."
Earlier this year, the government dropped plans to reduce the frequency of MoT tests, which would have involved delaying a car's first MoT from three years to four, and then having tests every two years instead of each year.
Road safety campaigners argued reducing the frequency of MoT tests for cars could lead to an increase in road deaths.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-18146326
[Edited on 21-05-2012 by mattant]
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R Lee
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Great news. I wonder how many cars are left from before 1960?
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mattant
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quote:
Originally posted by R Lee
Great news. I wonder how many cars are left from before 1960?
Quick Google search suggests around 186,214 
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Whittie
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Awaits a shed load of rusty cars being bought 
Quite cool though, tax & mot exempt! As well as classic car insurance. Very cheap motoring!
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R Lee
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I'm already scouring pistonheads 
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Whittie
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http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/1810107.htm
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All Torque
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Fuck yeah!
If this includes US imports then my dad will be well pleased!  No tax, classic insurance, 5 MPG and now no MOT needed Result.
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AlunJ
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Time to get myself a 50's banger then
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alan-g-w
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Pre 1960 cars that will take a LET...?
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BeetleGav
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OOOOO i could get a beetle and fit a subaru engine in haha
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Robin
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I think this is a really odd move, it just means you can go and buy some proper POS rust bucket on eBay, not mot it as its pre 1960, not tax it as its pre 1973, insure it on a classic policy for pennies and drive a potential death trap every day.
Also, there's nothing to stop you buying, for example, a Ford Popular from 1959, sticking a Zetec engine in it with a turbo and driving at 150mph with holes in the floor and brakes that don't work.
Madness IMO.
*goes to eBay*
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AlunJ
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So it goes on the chassis, bodywork age etc rather than the engine age I take it?
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All Torque
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There was a Pinto engine'd 105E in Custom Car last month 
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Alex_Rally
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after a quick look on ebay, theres fuk all before 1960s that i would even dare drive or less than 7k . not worth going and buying something just to save 40quid a year. so no real money saver in my eyes.
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AlunJ
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I might rock up to work in this http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C295961#
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BeetleGav
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quote:
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I might rock up to work in this http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C295961#
stick a focus st engine in it lol
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AlunJ
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leave the moss on it, proper sleeper
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AlunJ
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Could this be the start of some interesting projects?
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Ian W
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I can't see people driving cars that are over 50 years old to simple save a bit of money on the annual MOT. It'll be cheaper to maintain a modern car anyway
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Liam-Wilko
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quote:
Originally posted by Alex_Rally
after a quick look on ebay, theres fuk all before 1960s that i would even dare drive or less than 7k . not worth going and buying something just to save 40quid a year. so no real money saver in my eyes.
by the look and sound of it it will only be a real benafit to people who already own a pre 1960's car and i can imagine when this no mot starts the value will increase you know what people are like
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waters
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mine.....1949 Alvis
the big issue being brought up in the classic car world is insurance.......classic car insurance will rise due to cars being mot exempt, so we won't be saving anything and will probably cost us more in the long run.
I've had a word with my mechanic and he'll be giving my car a mot each year (with no certificate) for £20, just for my peace of mind that the car is safe
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eckers90
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Originally posted by BeetleGav
OOOOO i could get a beetle and fit a subaru engine in haha
i am doing this already
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baza31
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I can't see this going through tbh. Any vehicle on the road should be road safe . An enthusiast isn't a mechanic nor Mot tester and we get them in regular and their cars fail. It just means potential death traps will be allowed on road . IMO after a history with classic cars ,they should be tested twice a year. I don't care how much people like them 90% of classics even restored wasn't designed for our current road climate.
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John
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Really stupid, why would you stop checking the condition of the oldest cars
Because someone checks their tyres doesn't mean they have a clue about the chassis rusting away underneath.
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Gary
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I'd still take it for a test as i dont have ramps etc. Then just fix any problems at my leisure.
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