rob_watti
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i got my self a pipercross induction kit and fitted it to my car which is a 1.4 16v. the car started runnin shit so i reset the e c u. and i wasnt much better. i then ran a small cold air feed to it. it was only small coz i have air con and u cant get on much bigger in. but again it still ran shit. so i took the induction kit off and fitted mi old air box and runs much better now. why does this happen? and if i got a pipercross viper kit would this still happen? and would a viper kit link up to a velo's torque tube if i got both?
cheers lads
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carnoisseurcraig
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its cos the car is getting too much hot air. What u need to do is box off the filter. stop hot air gettin in.
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carnoisseurcraig
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yeah, a viper kit will work perfect of a BMC CDA filter.
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miles
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feck a viper. Just get a panel filter.
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Leven Cruise
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quote:
Originally posted by miles
feck a viper. Just get a panel filter.
Induction kits = quality noise & shite running
Panel filters and modded airbox = performance
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carnoisseurcraig
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how does a panel filter give ya more performance. An induction kit works if fitted properly. It needs to be shielded from hot air and the fuel pressure upped to stop it leaning out the mixture.
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luca2020
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because everyone that has gone the panel filter and drilled air box all say its a 100 x better than a induction kit
everyone knows that induction kits are poor on corsas because they suck in hot air from the engine
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Corsa Racer 69
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sorry m8 i av 2 disagree there i have had both on my 1.2 8v an although it may only be a small engine the induction kit definently performed much better than the air box
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luca2020
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what do u mean by performed? i very dout u noticed any performance increase
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Corsa Racer 69
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much quicker off the mark and pulled much better
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rob_watti
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so does everyone recon i get the viper induction kit coz dunt that have a carbon fibre heat shield around it? ive heard good things about them
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Adam-D
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mine drives better than air box standard but when it warms up and and stop at light and go to go again theres a lag before it goes
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c0rsa_1
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ive got a green cotten induction kit & it does run better from cold & lute warmthan standard induction bu u do get some lag wen engines hot, but wit a heat shield it should run with no lag
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Corsa Racer 69
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cant say ive had too much bother with lag wen the engine warms up like,
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rob_watti
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VIPER KIT OR NOT THEN??
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M4tt
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i got a 1.4 16v wiv a pipercross induction, and i have no probs at all.
i drive in all sorts on conditions ( urban, country blitzs, motorway...)
I've made me own heatsheild, doesn't look really pretty, but it helps a lil when driving in town. 
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carnoisseurcraig
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did i not say that at the start of the post. Put a sheild round it to STOP hot air getting to the filter. LUCA2020, an induction kit works wonders on a car IF, installed properly. and if u have done ir properly, u WILL notice an increae in power. Not seat throwing power but ul notice the difference.
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luca2020
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how can u not install it propley?
tbh tho if u go the induction kit route or filter/box route thiers very little power gain either way, so go for what ever u thinks best
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carnoisseurcraig
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not putting a heat sheild round a filter is not installing it properly.
there is a power gain. no much but for 80 quid ur not gonna get much but it helps the car breathe better. more cold, dense air in the better. A box is really restrictive. Those viper kits are good bt expensive. try the BMC ones. Ferarri endorse them and they are cheaper. Ive sold loads in the shop and had one on ma suzuki swift. On the rollers it showed a 7 bhp increase. From just a filter thats quality. so u canna say that it doesnt give u an increase in power
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moddedcorsa
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suzuki swift, now thats one rapid car!! My mate used to have a 1.3, said it was faster than his mk2 astra gte 16v
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BabyBlade
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just seen this thread, i've posted one like it but for my 1.4 8v, whats the best material to make a heat shield from?
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carnoisseurcraig
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carbon fibre if ya have the money but stainless steel and make a nice shiney box would work well.
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Virtue
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How do you mount the heat shield etc? Also, where's the best place to get some nice large cold air feed piping from?
~Simon
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Daimo B
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 At some of the replies on this thread.
An induction kit wont gain u as much power as a drilled airbox and aftermarket panel filter. Yes the throttle may seem more responive hence making it feel faster, but in actual road terms, the airbox is the better option. Give better more smoother power delivery, but u'll loose that 16v sound.
So as said, u want power, drill the box, u want noise, use an induction kit.
Simple.
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Kris TD
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took off my induction kit and replaced it with my origanal airbox, which i drilled, still ahs a paper filter in it and it runs much better than did with the induction kit. quicker than standard and with a cone filter. when i get a foam panel filter it should be even better.
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