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mattyboy199

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14th Oct 03 at 12:40

Just thought if a 1.6 16v sport is 0-60mph in 9.5 secs
then a GSI with the same engine (eco tec x16xe) should be quicker because the GSI did not have air con. So what is the actual figure for a GSI x16xe.

Discuss please.

vibrio

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14th Oct 03 at 12:41

8.9 topgear tested the GSi 0-60

mattyboy199

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14th Oct 03 at 12:43

Was that the x16xe engine though ?

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14th Oct 03 at 12:45

only 3bhp difference, cant see there being any major differences

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14th Oct 03 at 12:47

Difference between 'C' and 'X' 16XE is indeed 3bhp.

I think the C16XE has a different inlet manifold/throttle body design, and possibly no EGR system, although I could be wrong...

Daimo B

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14th Oct 03 at 12:53

Sam ur right. Think the head ports are slightly larger on the C16.

Later X16XE GSi's will be the same spec as the Sport X16 lumps. 9.5 0-60, 119mph.

Mid range performance on the C16 engine is better also. As well as the modifying potential.

C16 was the one designed with 150bhp. X16 was designed from the C16 lump and never came with anything like 150bhp.

Ojc

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14th Oct 03 at 13:43

Damien, I had the X16XE and I managed a 0-60 0f 9.1 seconds, a better driver who knows how to launch properly would be easily capable of a 0-60 of 8.9 seconds.

Daimo B

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14th Oct 03 at 14:17

Oliver, i done 0-60 in 9.55 on in a 1.4 16v with official equipment. PLease remember that factory stats are based on the average.

Im telling you from my personnal experience, and that of a vauxhall mechanic of 14 odd years, who has an X16 GSi, and from other GSi owners that a C16 engine is faster.

Or are you just gonna try to argue some more with me today?

Ojc

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14th Oct 03 at 14:26

I did not say that the C16 is slower you turd, I just said that the X16XE is faster than factory figures.

Its you who wants the argument not me.

Tom

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14th Oct 03 at 14:28

wow sensible ollie

I agree with you also, daimo stop being arguementitive

Daimo B

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14th Oct 03 at 14:31

This is reffering from another post.

And im saying, cars can be faster and slower, just depends on the day, conditions, driver etc.

So stop getting into a tantrum

Ojc

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14th Oct 03 at 14:33

I feel Damiens comments were a direct assualt at me

Tom

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14th Oct 03 at 14:33

Daimo B

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14th Oct 03 at 14:38

quote:
Originally posted by Ojc
I feel Damiens comments were a direct assualt at me

Partly yes for your attitude in another post.

AS for the facts, well, that is an un-biased opinion based on experience. So partly no.

Getting you a little worked up is it?

Steve

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14th Oct 03 at 14:42

PMSL @ daimo thinking his 1.4 16 did 9.55

what timing gear was that daimo

Steve

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14th Oct 03 at 14:43

looking at your crap vids it seems your car did not do under 10 secs 0-60

Daimo B

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14th Oct 03 at 14:54

quote:
Originally posted by Steve106GTi
PMSL @ daimo thinking his 1.4 16 did 9.55 what timing gear was that daimo

Datron Timed gear at Alconbury airstrip, Corsa Vs Nova day, before you even had a corsa. Cough cough nonce!

And of course my car didn't do that kinda speed with the videos. Partly due to a 170kg Ice install and 16"s.

But then you never look at the facts do you stephen, you just go off on some wild trip thinking you do know all

When clearly you never do, cos i always prove you wrong when you try to slate me

Humble pie stephen?

Tom

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14th Oct 03 at 15:02

(I like laughing in this thread

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14th Oct 03 at 15:17

quote:
Originally posted by Daimo B

quote:
Originally posted by Steve106GTi
PMSL @ daimo thinking his 1.4 16 did 9.55 what timing gear was that daimo

Datron Timed gear at Alconbury airstrip, Corsa Vs Nova day, before you even had a corsa. Cough cough nonce!

And of course my car didn't do that kinda speed with the videos. Partly due to a 170kg Ice install and 16"s.

But then you never look at the facts do you stephen, you just go off on some wild trip thinking you do know all When clearly you never do, cos i always prove you wrong when you try to slate me

Humble pie stephen?

no Daimo it is you that will have some

Steve

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14th Oct 03 at 15:30

damien i had my corsa in 1999 so no, and ur corsa was and still is slow

Daimo B

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14th Oct 03 at 16:25

april 1999 stephen??
Yes, it was slow, but it still had that official time. Please get over it.

kro

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14th Oct 03 at 16:31

corsa vs Nova day?

wasnt this featured in max power??

Daimo B

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14th Oct 03 at 16:34

Yeah, ageeeeeeeeeeeeeeeessss ago. Years in fact

Too slow to make the mag

Still, Stu Smith made a good time on a standard (ish) 2.0 to represent the corsa boys. Well, in fact, he was the only 2.0 Corsa there on the day

kro

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14th Oct 03 at 16:37

yeah i know reckon still the magazine in the archives

, shame no-one had a LET in their corsa, Look at karthniks nova back then to compared to what it was b4 he broke it. Also C4rsa made its debut then

mattyboy199

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14th Oct 03 at 17:22

quote:
Originally posted by Daimo B
Sam ur right. Think the head ports are slightly larger on the C16.

Later X16XE GSi's will be the same spec as the Sport X16 lumps. 9.5 0-60, 119mph.

Mid range performance on the C16 engine is better also. As well as the modifying potential.

C16 was the one designed with 150bhp. X16 was designed from the C16 lump and never came with anything like 150bhp.

How can the X16XE GSI be the same performance as the sport when the GSI has no air con these units are big & heavy

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