alan-g-w
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Originally posted by Jambo
Yes Alan, taking something that isnt yours is a crime, and a drain on society caused by a selfish minority.
Fraud is still taking without owning, however indirect it may be. Its dishonest and the easy way out. Thus the same thing
Again, I disagree. But if you'd do that then fine.
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alan-g-w
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Originally posted by Ian
£30k or £40k, its still compares unfavorably to having a job and contributing to the economy. I would rather give 10 nurses an extra 200 quid per month.
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Re-Offending is costly to society, both in economic and social terms. A re-offending former prisoner costs on average £65,000 to re-imprison, and £40,000 a year whilst they are in prison.
That is from the link I posted. Ultimately it doesn't matter on the exact figure, its not zero.
So at which point does the cost of sending someone to prison outweigh the fact that they deserve it?
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Aaron
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Originally posted by GaryF
They brought it on themselves. They deserved it tbh.
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Cosmo
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Originally posted by alan-g-w
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Originally posted by Ian
£30k or £40k, its still compares unfavorably to having a job and contributing to the economy. I would rather give 10 nurses an extra 200 quid per month.
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Re-Offending is costly to society, both in economic and social terms. A re-offending former prisoner costs on average £65,000 to re-imprison, and £40,000 a year whilst they are in prison.
That is from the link I posted. Ultimately it doesn't matter on the exact figure, its not zero.
So at which point does the cost of sending someone to prison outweigh the fact that they deserve it?
You're looking at this the totally wrong way.
No one is saying we should kill at people who steal (although their is an argument there for it), people are saying that if these lot are stupid enough to steal something and die whilst doing it then they got what they deserved.
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alan-g-w
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Jambo, GaryF, John and many others have said that yes we should kill people who steal (not meaning to pick on them, just ones I remembered) and that's the only sort of comments I've got any sort of problem with in this thread. It's totally fucked up thinking.
I've said I agree with the fact they had it coming - I'm a firm believer in being responsible for your own actions and that definetely applies here. But at one point I asked if they didn't die from being hit by a train, would they deserve to die and people said yes. Pretty shocking to be honest.
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Alan !
At what point did I say you were trying to change opinions?
Also, you're being quite challenging, although 'you don't give a Fuck what I think', you keep asking for my opinion.
You went on to say that you don't think my opinion is mine, if I don't like something, I don't write in it, if I feel I have a valid opinion, I will say it, no matter who else agrees or disagrees. you need to pull your head out of the sand, and look what I just said. Sort your head out.
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alan-g-w
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I don't think you can tell anyone to sort their head out when you say that people deserved to die for committing theft.
[Edited on 14-12-2009 by alan-g-w]
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GF-91
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There you go again.
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Nath
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Somebody lock this thread 
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Originally posted by Nath
Somebody lock this thread
Whoever locks it deserves to die tbh.
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Nath
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Stealing my quotes I see?...... tut tut tut. Off with Cosmo's head.
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GF-91
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@ cosmo's reply.
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Cosmo
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Originally posted by Nath
Stealing my quotes I see?...... tut tut tut. Off with Cosmo's head.
How do I steal a quote? It wouldnt be a quote unless I used it, it would just be a post.
Of to the railway line for you.
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@ cosmo's reply.
I hadnt replied until after you posted this...
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Nath
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I didn't give you permission to use it. So there you go.
Infront of the train you go my friend.
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Cosmo
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Originally posted by Nath
I didn't give you permission to use it. So there you go.
Infront of the train you go my friend.
Do you want to hold hands as it heads towards us both?
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Nath
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If you like.
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Cosmo
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No I wouldnt, gay boy.
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Originally posted by Cosmo
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Originally posted by GaryF
@ cosmo's reply.
I hadnt replied until after you posted this...
I was laughing at your comment quoting nath's post.
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alan-g-w
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When I say I don't care I mean that in the way that it's not affecting my life in any way.
Lock this thread, delete it, do whatever. I just hope that at least one person's understood what I'm trying to get at.
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GF-91
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Ok alan
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mwg
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kill alan
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Cosmo
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Originally posted by mwg
kill alan
For stealing the fun out of this thread?
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mwg
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yep
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BarnshaW
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Originally posted by alan-g-w
When I say I don't care I mean that in the way that it's not affecting my life in any way.
Lock this thread, delete it, do whatever. I just hope that at least one person's understood what I'm trying to get at.
i got what you meant mate and i agree however its no good arguing it in this thread. Just keep the opinions in your mind, thats what i do
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