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So 85m more in an extra 20 years covering a massive array of products from phones to cassette players. vs. The iPod.


I'll ask again, Russ. Where are you going with this?
You seem to imply that the iPod is a nothing product that hasn't done anything to the music industry.
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I thought the hungry caterpillar came up with that logo years ago
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OMFG. Do not tell me there is a candle app there


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People left iPads and iPhones displaying candle graphics at an Apple store in the Ginza shopping district


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surely if Apple hadn't made the iPod then another company would have bought out a device which would have become the 'must have' gadget
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When did I once say that there would be as many songs sold legally? You're taking a long way round the actual point, which was saying the iPod revolutionised the mobile music industry. It did not. It improved it monumental amounts, but not the revolution of it
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OMFG. Do not tell me there is a candle app there


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People left iPads and iPhones displaying candle graphics at an Apple store in the Ginza shopping district







So Steve Jobs robs them of £400+ for an iPad/iPhone and when he dies they just leave them there?
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So 85m more in an extra 20 years covering a massive array of products from phones to cassette players. vs. The iPod.


You knew Walkman covered a wide range of products and still thought my comment was a "bold claim". Give up Russ

[Edited on 06-10-2011 by Dom]
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So 85m more in an extra 20 years covering a massive array of products from phones to cassette players. vs. The iPod.


I'll ask again, Russ. Where are you going with this?
You seem to imply that the iPod is a nothing product that hasn't done anything to the music industry.


I'm not. Just correcting the people who are wrong.
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surely if Apple hadn't made the iPod then another company would have bought out a device which would have become the 'must have' gadget
You can't say that.. Or you could say the same for all of, Edisons inventions, for example.
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surely if Apple hadn't made the iPod then another company would have bought out a device which would have become the 'must have' gadget
You can't say that.. Or you could say the same for all of, Edisons inventions, for example.



fair point.
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When did I once say that there would be as many songs sold legally? You're taking a long way round the actual point, which was saying the iPod revolutionised the mobile music industry. It did not. It improved it monumental amounts, but not the revolution of it
Let's agree to disagree.
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When did I once say that there would be as many songs sold legally? You're taking a long way round the actual point, which was saying the iPod revolutionised the mobile music industry. It did not. It improved it monumental amounts, but not the revolution of it
Let's agree to disagree.


There is no disagreement, mate You're wrong. Pure and simple. You just don't want to accept it. It may have sold the most, but then surely that means that the Toyota Corolla revolutionised the car market as it's the highest selling car of all time?
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So 85m more in an extra 20 years covering a massive array of products from phones to cassette players. vs. The iPod.


You knew Walkman covered a wide range of products and still thought my comment was a "bold claim". Give up Russ

[Edited on 06-10-2011 by Dom]
Ok I did. And 385m is impressive. In fact it's a stupidly high number. Which if anything just shows how impressive iPod sales are.
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I hate apple, but have to agree, the iPod, and furthermore iTunes revolutionised the way we listen to, and purchase music.

There were mp3 players before the iPod, as apple steal other ideas and make them shiny, but still it bought them to the masses

I say we, obviously people who get music legally.
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Are you saying without the iPod and iTunes as many songs would've been legally sold in the last 10 years.



Two different products and IIRC iTunes was release before the iPod. I will agree that iTunes was the biggest player in-terms of selling music legally; it certainly changed how we purchased music.
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When did I once say that there would be as many songs sold legally? You're taking a long way round the actual point, which was saying the iPod revolutionised the mobile music industry. It did not. It improved it monumental amounts, but not the revolution of it
Let's agree to disagree.


There is no disagreement, mate You're wrong. Pure and simple. You just don't want to accept it. It may have sold the most, but then surely that means that the Toyota Corolla revolutionised the car market as it's the highest selling car of all time?
No it's not

The corolla hasn't changed the way petrol is sold and doesn't control 70% of the petrol (well all fuels) Market.

[Edited on 06-10-2011 by Russ]
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I would say a light bulb changed the world, so did electricity, and helicopters.

All these modern gadgets are actually a bit crap, phones are good devices, so are cameras, but most the crappy games, gimmicky apps, etc are boring after a few weeks, my phone just sits there most of the time.

Its just taking things that already exist, and doing the same job, only smaller and not as fast. Got a TV for watching tv, xbox for playing games, books I can read, PC which has the full internet, do I really need a pretend zippo or a virtual pint of beer? No.

Gimmicks imo and its hindering society.
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The recession has caused a lot of cutbacks recently... even Apple have lost Jobs
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People are too caught up poking each other and liking stuff
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Originally posted by Russ
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Originally posted by Eck
When did I once say that there would be as many songs sold legally? You're taking a long way round the actual point, which was saying the iPod revolutionised the mobile music industry. It did not. It improved it monumental amounts, but not the revolution of it
Let's agree to disagree.


There is no disagreement, mate You're wrong. Pure and simple. You just don't want to accept it. It may have sold the most, but then surely that means that the Toyota Corolla revolutionised the car market as it's the highest selling car of all time?
No it's not

The corolla hasn't changed the way petrol is sold and doesn't control 70% of the petrol (well all fuels) Market.

[Edited on 06-10-2011 by Russ]


So we're going by market share now So you lot with Mac's are wrong because PC owns a vast majority of the market? Seriously, give it up now. It did not revolutionise portable music. It improved the idea.
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Are you saying without the iPod and iTunes as many songs would've been legally sold in the last 10 years.



Two different products and IIRC iTunes was release before the iPod. I will agree that iTunes was the biggest player in-terms of selling music legally; it certainly changed how we purchased music.
IPod was 2 years before iTunes (2003)
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Originally posted by Russ
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Originally posted by Eck
When did I once say that there would be as many songs sold legally? You're taking a long way round the actual point, which was saying the iPod revolutionised the mobile music industry. It did not. It improved it monumental amounts, but not the revolution of it
Let's agree to disagree.


There is no disagreement, mate You're wrong. Pure and simple. You just don't want to accept it. It may have sold the most, but then surely that means that the Toyota Corolla revolutionised the car market as it's the highest selling car of all time?
No it's not

The corolla hasn't changed the way petrol is sold and doesn't control 70% of the petrol (well all fuels) Market.



iTunes changed the way music was sold, iPods didn't......
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Originally posted by Eck
When did I once say that there would be as many songs sold legally? You're taking a long way round the actual point, which was saying the iPod revolutionised the mobile music industry. It did not. It improved it monumental amounts, but not the revolution of it
Let's agree to disagree.


There is no disagreement, mate You're wrong. Pure and simple. You just don't want to accept it. It may have sold the most, but then surely that means that the Toyota Corolla revolutionised the car market as it's the highest selling car of all time?
No it's not

The corolla hasn't changed the way petrol is sold and doesn't control 70% of the petrol (well all fuels) Market.

[Edited on 06-10-2011 by Russ]


So we're going by market share now So you lot with Mac's are wrong because PC owns a vast majority of the market? Seriously, give it up now. It did not revolutionise portable music. It improved the idea.
ok so if dominating hardware and music sales doesn't count as revolutionising a product. What does.?

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