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Russ

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6th Oct 11 at 17:34

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When did I once say that there would be as many songs sold legally? You're taking a long way round the actual point, which was saying the iPod revolutionised the mobile music industry. It did not. It improved it monumental amounts, but not the revolution of it
Let's agree to disagree.

There is no disagreement, mate You're wrong. Pure and simple. You just don't want to accept it. It may have sold the most, but then surely that means that the Toyota Corolla revolutionised the car market as it's the highest selling car of all time?
No it's not

The corolla hasn't changed the way petrol is sold and doesn't control 70% of the petrol (well all fuels) Market.

iTunes changed the way music was sold, iPods didn't......

ok fair point. iPods changed the way 300m people listen to there music

Eck

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6th Oct 11 at 17:35

quote:
Originally posted by Russ

quote:
Originally posted by Eck

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Originally posted by Russ

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Originally posted by Eck

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Originally posted by Russ

quote:
Originally posted by Eck
When did I once say that there would be as many songs sold legally? You're taking a long way round the actual point, which was saying the iPod revolutionised the mobile music industry. It did not. It improved it monumental amounts, but not the revolution of it
Let's agree to disagree.

There is no disagreement, mate You're wrong. Pure and simple. You just don't want to accept it. It may have sold the most, but then surely that means that the Toyota Corolla revolutionised the car market as it's the highest selling car of all time?
No it's not

The corolla hasn't changed the way petrol is sold and doesn't control 70% of the petrol (well all fuels) Market.

[Edited on 06-10-2011 by Russ]

So we're going by market share now So you lot with Mac's are wrong because PC owns a vast majority of the market? Seriously, give it up now. It did not revolutionise portable music. It improved the idea.
ok so if dominating hardware and music sales doesn't count as revolutionising a product. What does.?

How is it dominating hardware when Walkman's sold more? The iPod didn't do fuckall for music sales either?

Eck

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6th Oct 11 at 17:35

quote:
Originally posted by Russ

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Originally posted by Dom

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Originally posted by Russ

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Originally posted by Eck

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Originally posted by Russ

quote:
Originally posted by Eck
When did I once say that there would be as many songs sold legally? You're taking a long way round the actual point, which was saying the iPod revolutionised the mobile music industry. It did not. It improved it monumental amounts, but not the revolution of it
Let's agree to disagree.

There is no disagreement, mate You're wrong. Pure and simple. You just don't want to accept it. It may have sold the most, but then surely that means that the Toyota Corolla revolutionised the car market as it's the highest selling car of all time?
No it's not

The corolla hasn't changed the way petrol is sold and doesn't control 70% of the petrol (well all fuels) Market.

iTunes changed the way music was sold, iPods didn't......
ok fair point. iPods changed the way 300m people listen to there music

It didn't. MP3 players were out before the iPod.

John

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6th Oct 11 at 17:37

MP3 changed the way music was listened to, the iPod didn't.

Russ

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6th Oct 11 at 17:39

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MP3 changed the way music was listened to, the iPod didn't.

Agreed. Mp3 changed the way music was listened too, iPod changed the way we listen to music

John

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6th Oct 11 at 17:40

Naa, does the same job as a walkman from that perspective.

It was the digital music that caused the revolution, not what it was played on.

Jake

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6th Oct 11 at 17:42

why were ipods more popular than any other mp3 player at the time?

John

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6th Oct 11 at 17:43

Marketing.

Russ

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6th Oct 11 at 17:43

I disagree. The way Walkman dominated cassettes, I.e. Listening to your Walkman mate? When they had a generic casette player, iPod has done the same. If you show lots of people an mp3 player and what it does, they'll call it an iPod.

Russ

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6th Oct 11 at 17:44

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why were ipods more popular than any other mp3 player at the time?

They weren't. It took around 4 years to sell 10m and they used to be FireWire only so not much use to lots of pcs

Russ

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6th Oct 11 at 17:46

This thread is massively iff track

RIP steve. If nothing else, you made this thread possible.

Dom

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6th Oct 11 at 17:47

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Originally posted by Russ
I disagree. The way Walkman dominated cassettes, I.e. Listening to your Walkman mate? When they had a generic casette player, iPod has done the same. If you show lots of people an mp3 player and what it does, they'll call it an iPod.

Again marketing. Same with Cola; everyone calls it Coke even though that's a Coca-Cola trademark.

Russ

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6th Oct 11 at 17:49

Exactly. Would you not say coke revolutionised the way people think about soft drinks? Calling cola, coke, lemonade, sprite etc?

Edit - cinemas was am iPhone autocorrect fail

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Ben G

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6th Oct 11 at 17:53

this thread should now be placed in geek day.

cavmad

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6th Oct 11 at 17:55

RIP Crsa Sport Ov Day.

U ment so much 2 us and refolushanized da way car forumz were seen on da net.
OMG im gonna go 2 Lifferpoole an torch a Corsa owtside Ians hows in resspect.
Nite nite solja rip.

[Edited on 06-10-2011 by cavmad]

Steve

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6th Oct 11 at 17:56

wow whats going on here

LeeM

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6th Oct 11 at 18:05

the first mp3 player i remember is an ipod, then people copied but before that they werent mainstream.
the first smartphone i remember is the iphone, then others copied.
the first tablet i remember i sthe ipad, then others copied.
it could be quite easily said that eventually someone else would have brought out all of these products, but the apple product has always set the benchmark

Russ

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6th Oct 11 at 18:06

for the record, i never said that.

Ben G

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6th Oct 11 at 18:07

iirc my nokia n95 was hailed as a ''smartphone'' and that was before anyone has these fancy iphones.

John

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6th Oct 11 at 18:09

That's your lack of knowledge/memory more than anything Lee.

First MP3 players had 8 and 16mb.

LeeM

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6th Oct 11 at 18:10

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iirc my nokia n95 was hailed as a ''smartphone'' and that was before anyone has these fancy iphones.

i was referring to smartphones like they are now, big touchscreens, apps etc. no one would really hold the n95 in the same league

Cavey

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6th Oct 11 at 18:10

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That's your lack of knowledge/memory more than anything Lee.

First MP3 players had 8 and 16mb.

this

Jambo

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6th Oct 11 at 18:10

Smartphones where out for years before the iPhone, trouble is they where shit.

John

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6th Oct 11 at 18:11

The original iPhone was shit.

LeeM

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6th Oct 11 at 18:12

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That's your lack of knowledge/memory more than anything Lee.

First MP3 players had 8 and 16mb.

i know, proper usefull them though wernet they

first one you could get at least an album on without having to carry a vag of memory cards...? ipod

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