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VrsTurbo

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20th Dec 13 at 23:13

Of course it's an illness. Like the gays

John

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20th Dec 13 at 23:15

It's a bit in the brain that's clearly not wired properly. Even really hard criminals draw the line somewhere, they know they are doing wrong but do it. This is something completely different.

SVM 286

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21st Dec 13 at 13:02

I just think it's incredibly unfair to people with genuine mental health issues, to refer to someone this evil as merely ill or sick.

It belittles his heinous actions and pretty much gives him an excuse.

It also lumps all people with insanity issues in the same boat as someone that monstrously cruel and sadistic.

Dave

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21st Dec 13 at 13:05

But on purely medical level they probably are.

SVM 286

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21st Dec 13 at 13:08

Not if he's just a nasty sadistic c*nt though Dave.

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21st Dec 13 at 13:11

His brain my cause him to want to act like that, but its his attitude to punishment that causes him to go through with it.

I'm with Jim - its not attributable to something he had no control over.

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21st Dec 13 at 13:31

At the risk of sounding like an apologist I'm not so sure. Don't get me wrong, I fully agree with the sentence and obviously he should be removed from society but there is still something that has caused him to have these urges and, more importantly, to act on them.

What exactly that is is up for debate, as is how much influence his drug taking had on it, but there must be something wrong mentally to start with.

SVM 286

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21st Dec 13 at 13:48

I sincerely hope not.

Because he will be treated accordingly if so.

Needs to be in with what the yanks call ''Gen-Pop''

Dave

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21st Dec 13 at 14:01

Maybe that's for the best though? As it is it could be he doesn't think what he has done is wrong, perhaps if he was "fixed" then reality might dawn and he realises exactly what it is he did and just why it was wrong.

If he simply goes to prison and is surrounded by other sex offenders, other people with his sort of thoughts and urges, then is he really paying for what he's done?

SVM 286

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21st Dec 13 at 15:14

I was hoping more for bank robbers...

SVM 286

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21st Dec 13 at 15:15

...ones with a big pair of scissors/shears.

SVM 286

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21st Dec 13 at 15:19

0:58 to 1:13 tbf...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKdUsJU-cQ0

Generation

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22nd Dec 13 at 01:13

I see the point Dave is making.

We all know it's wrong.

However, if in somebody's brain everything tells
Them it's ok to act like that, it's a different story.

Before anybody goes crazy
I agree he deserves punishment.
However, most of us don't do a lot of "wrong things" but if in our heads we were made to think they're right, then are we really wrong?

I think that makes sense

JordyCarter

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22nd Dec 13 at 12:20

quote:
Originally posted by Generation
However, most of us don't do a lot of "wrong things" but if in our heads we were made to think they're right, then are we really wrong?

Deep shit

Ben G

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22nd Dec 13 at 12:39

Goth like thoughts from the goth music follower.

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22nd Dec 13 at 13:59

Personally I think there's fuck all wrong with his Brain. The way that I see it is pedo's havnt got a bit in there brain that's wrong or coded different or what ever. They're just people that fancy children
Don't think people should try putting him in the "mentally ill" category as that sort of gives him a way out.
It's like your trying to justify what he has done by saying "it's horrible what he's done, but he is mentally ill though"
Guys just a fucking disgusting pedophile.
I do wonder though if there's a chance it could of turned into some sort of murder case if no one had stopped him at this stage... The way he spoke about and treated them baby's makes me feel like eventually he would of killed one of them. Either overdosed on drugs or just physically hurt the child
If you ask me he's not got a long enough sentence!

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22nd Dec 13 at 15:04

He hasn't got a long enough sentence . Only has to do two thirds . And then he's out on licence but big deal he will still have his wealth . They should of awarded each child a share of his fortune and left him with nothing

SVM 286

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22nd Dec 13 at 22:03

Hopefully he'll only serve a few terrifying months of his sentence.

And then spend a few minutes (preferably hours) bleeding out, through the holes were his eyes and genitals once lived.

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23rd Dec 13 at 09:06

quote:
Originally posted by SVM 286
Hopefully he'll only serve a few terrifying months of his sentence.

And then spend a few minutes (preferably hours) bleeding out, through the holes were his eyes and genitals once lived.

Oh the irony

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23rd Dec 13 at 14:24

quote:
Originally posted by Ben G

quote:
Originally posted by bigboykarl
what isn't reported is the 11month old is watkins son

How do you know of this?

i know the girl, she was one of my eldest daughters mates

VrsTurbo

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23rd Dec 13 at 14:44

quote:
Originally posted by bigboykarl

quote:
Originally posted by Ben G

quote:
Originally posted by bigboykarl
what isn't reported is the 11month old is watkins son

How do you know of this?

i know the girl, she was one of my eldest daughters mates

Of course. Why would any one want to be broadcasting that round........

bigboykarl

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23rd Dec 13 at 15:10

was is the appropriate word

Richie

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27th Dec 13 at 03:27

http://soundandmotionmag.com/2013/12/18/news-judges-remarks-released-for-ian-watkins-trial/

That was difficult to read.

Cavey

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27th Dec 13 at 08:18

Been linked already anyway - just copy/pasted from the previous link

[Edited on 27-12-2013 by Cavey]

Siberia

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27th Dec 13 at 09:10

I dont see why they should be able to get parole.. They should doo the full term of there sentences.. In case of B her sentence should be wat longer and too much credit has been given to her early guilty plea.

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