Fro
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Conservatives want Lib Dem bastard government 
they're going to try for the minority gnmt first which would be good, but failing that they would have to join them or labour will be in again instead.
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FruitBooTeR
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Even though I voted Labour I still feel they are poor in some areas, really what this country needs is a party that can see the views from a working class point of view. How can they relate to working class people when they are all cambridge and oxford graduates? they have never experienced working class lives, not once, they look at them from the outside but they dont understand the gravity of their desitions. its all just figures on a screen, statistics. Society is programmed so there are no working ... See moreclass people in parliament, Saying they 'understand our problems' isnt truely relating to us is it?. its pretending to represent the everyday person when they still have all their own agendas and nothing to do with us, if we were represented by a group of people, say a working class union. THEN we would be truelly represented. There are people from working class areas in politics, thats why we have local elections. but theres nobody in downing street, because thats not how it works.
Fact is Britsh socialism died with john smith, fuck those who voted torie...the 80's was fucked up as Thatcher sold out british industry,including oil reserves that in todays market would've meant britain having a strong economic hold on the rest of the world, and wouldn't bind us to certain countries international politics. The reason britain seems more fucked is cause Thatcher destroyed british industry, the growth of criminality is dominated by young people who are not tailered for the education system but would've worked well in a britain with had a strong industry, and it was mrs thatcher who sold out these industry's such as steal.
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Ojc
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Thatcher paid off the national debt so that Tony Blair could spend spend spend for 10 years like we did.
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Steve
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that speech made gordon brown speech look like a cunt tbh
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Fro
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Debt free under thatcher and now we are £611 BILLION approx in Debt due to labour and they want to borrow more and more.
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Fro
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that speech made gordon brown speech look like a cunt tbh
He smashed it tbh.
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Ojc
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Pics of Gordon Browns wife?
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adiohead
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New Labour aren't Labour, that's the problem and why I didn't vote for them.
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Fro
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Marc
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Wouldn't.
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Daimo B
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Originally posted by FruitBooTeR
Fact is Britsh socialism died with john smith, fuck those who voted torie...the 80's was fucked up as Thatcher sold out british industry,including oil reserves that in todays market would've meant britain having a strong economic hold on the rest of the world, and wouldn't bind us to certain countries international politics. The reason britain seems more fucked is cause Thatcher destroyed british industry, the growth of criminality is dominated by young people who are not tailered for the education system but would've worked well in a britain with had a strong industry, and it was mrs thatcher who sold out these industry's such as steal.
Oh you mean oil reserves that are practicially depleated?
Or the oil we're drilling in the north sea thats been found in the last few years will cover this.
She sold a load of sh1t companies, getting us out of debt, for labour to put us back in (who put us in the debt that Maggie had to get us out of??? Labour......).
Your telling me that the attitude of "give me everything, i've done nothing to deserve it but gimmie gimmie" hasn't come about because of the way labour has run the country..... 
i've watched this country nose dive in the last 13 years odd, we're now a joke of the world, a piss take with immirgration, health service etc.
So your saying, all the retards who go out and do crime, would be quite happy working in a steel mill if Thatcher hadn't of sold it. Please, give me a break Attitudes like this came about hugely because people could twist a sh1t system labour brought in. Meaning us working folk get shafted, and those not working get loads of free stuff. People getting a higher rate of benefits, hence leading many young girls to get pregnent at 16, have a baby, get a house, get benefits, have another kid, and another, get a bigger house, more benefits... Why bother working at all?
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saj_123
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Britain debt is at 811 Billion and the conservatives want to cut spending in every sector apart from Health and foreign security and freeze public sector pay which is bad enough.
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Ojc
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Would
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Ojc
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PUBLIC SECTOR PAY IS BAD? ARE YOU FUCKING HAVING ME ON SAJ?
Those that work in the council offices get paid stupid money for the jobs they do, i.e. fuck all.
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PaulW
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quote:
Originally posted by VXR
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Originally posted by FruitBooTeR
Fact is Britsh socialism died with john smith, fuck those who voted torie...the 80's was fucked up as Thatcher sold out british industry,including oil reserves that in todays market would've meant britain having a strong economic hold on the rest of the world, and wouldn't bind us to certain countries international politics. The reason britain seems more fucked is cause Thatcher destroyed british industry, the growth of criminality is dominated by young people who are not tailered for the education system but would've worked well in a britain with had a strong industry, and it was mrs thatcher who sold out these industry's such as steal.
Oh you mean oil reserves that are practicially depleated?
Or the oil we're drilling in the north sea thats been found in teh last few years? Oh wait, no she didn't know back then.
She sold a load of sh1t companies, getting us out of debt, for labour to put us back in (who put us in the debt that Maggie had to get us out of, oh yeah, Labour......).
Your telling me that teh attitude of "give me everything, i've done nothing to deserve it byut gimmie gimmie" hasn't come about becuase of the way labour has run the country.....
i've watched this country nose dive in the last 13 years odd, we're now a joke of the world, a piss take with immirgration, health service etc.
So your saying, all the retards who go out and do crime, would be quite happy working in a steel mill if Thatcher hadn't of sold it. please, give me a break Attitudes like this came about hugely because people could twist a sh1t system labour brought in. Meaning us working folk get shafted, and those not working get loads of free stuff.
You, Sir, have hit the nail square on the head!
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Conway563
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Britain debt is at 811 Billion and the conservatives want to cut spending in every sector apart from Health and foreign security and freeze public sector pay which is bad enough.
Why is that bad?
Civil servants get a rediculous amount of money for what they do compared to private companies. Maybe if they actually worked rather than having so much holiday it would run more effeciently
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Daimo B
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Originally posted by saj_123
Britain debt is at 811 Billion and the conservatives want to cut spending in every sector apart from Health and foreign security and freeze public sector pay which is bad enough.
Arn't tube drivers and such on £40k per year.
Hell i've been working in banks, law firms, doing a skilled tade, but im not on that much... Even thinking about jacking it all in to become a bus driver and get paid more..
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Conway563
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PUBLIC SECTOR PAY IS BAD? ARE YOU FUCKING HAVING ME ON SAJ?
Those that work in the council offices get paid stupid money for the jobs they do, i.e. fuck all.
Ollie, I like you more and more each day
I work on a civil service contract. Most people in the office are basically glorified admin assistants earning £40k (the lowest you can earn in this department is £25k and can potentially get to £200k), getting 30 days holiday standard, bank holidays as normal plus extra days off for christmas, easter and the queens fucking birthday. They also get up to 25 flex days a year
Thats 66 days off a year as standard 
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Ojc
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Me, Conway jumped straight in on that comment.
Saying public sector is underpaid is the worst thing I've ever heard.
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Daimo B
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I dunno, Fruitbooers was pretty close...
the growth of criminality is dominated by young people who are not tailered for the education system but would've worked well in a britain with had a strong industry, and it was mrs thatcher who sold out these industry's such as steal
Blame Maggie 15 years ago for the dossers out knifing people for looking at them that are about today. Steel and oil would have fixed those people
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Fro
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I'm going to walk past the film crews look out for a geek in a green hoody
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Ojc
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I have friends that work in the Reading Council Offices, they do absolutely FUCK ALL and get paid stupid amounts for the job they do, they are always leaving early almost everyday.
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Conway563
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Plus a year at full pay off sick before anyone actually asks a question as to why
There's a woman in the office off at the moment becuase she was starting to lose her voice WHAT THE FUCK
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Daimo B
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Theres a chinese chap who sits outside Kent County council office who directs cars into the carpark. Its a f*cking 2 way street into a carpark FFS...
Why??
Well, they ahve to be seen to giving jobs to all cultures and offering opportunities to those that don't have many, just to make up the stats and make them look good.
I mean, he stands there every morning, waves at people as they drive in. Around Midday he leaves..
Why?? Why is our local tax paying money paying for this position?
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Ojc
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They have created loads of nothing jobs, adminstrators for adminstrators etc etc.
I'm ready to storm the council offices with my cock out and some molotov cocktails strapped to my head.
I might even set fire to my pubes
But not before I've drank my cup of tea.
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