Steve
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people keep bringing up the softer drugs in the argument that drugs are good.
just because cannabis, and E doesnt affect you as much, doesnt mean that others wont, and doesnt mean that the softer drugs should be made legal and readily available either
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A1EX
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the difference between alcohol as a drug and other above mentioned drugs is that it is readily available to the general public and it is not illegal. Now there is a reason why the Class A, B and C drugs are illegal and alcohol isnt (obviously to above 18s) Alcohol cannot be classed even in the same league as some of them drugs and there effects
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LeeM
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thats because u keep saying drugs as one thing, and have even called "drugs" and alcohol different things steve
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drunkenfool
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Originally posted by Steve
people keep bringing up the softer drugs in the argument that drugs are good.
just because cannabis, and E doesnt affect you as much, doesnt mean that others wont, and doesnt mean that the softer drugs should be made legal and readily available either
Ive NEVER SAID THAT DRUGS ARE GOOD!
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Steve
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well people have been classing coffee and heroin in the same sentence  nothing surprises me
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Alcohol cannot be classed even in the same league as some of them drugs and there effects
Alcohol has worst effects than most drugs.
More people die from alcohol than drugs. Even proportionatly.
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Steve
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Originally posted by Steve
people keep bringing up the softer drugs in the argument that drugs are good.
just because cannabis, and E doesnt affect you as much, doesnt mean that others wont, and doesnt mean that the softer drugs should be made legal and readily available either
Ive NEVER SAID THAT DRUGS ARE GOOD!
i didnt necessarily mean you, others keep saying, E's no worse than alcohol blah blah etc
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Hammer
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Originally posted by Steve
people keep bringing up the softer drugs in the argument that drugs are good.
just because cannabis, and E doesnt affect you as much, doesnt mean that others wont, and doesnt mean that the softer drugs should be made legal and readily available either
I'm with you on this btw, society could not sustain folk running around out their face on eccies imo therefore they should not be legalised, again just my opinion.
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Steve
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Alcohol cannot be classed even in the same league as some of them drugs and there effects
Alcohol has worst effects than most drugs.
More people die from alcohol than drugs. Even proportionatly.
i should hope so considering alcohol is readily available and drugs arent, doesnt that give some kind of indication as to what would happen if a lot of drugs were legalised?
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LeeM
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it is a debate about drugs though...
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A1EX
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Alcohol cannot be classed even in the same league as some of them drugs and there effects
Alcohol has worst effects than most drugs.
More people die from alcohol than drugs. Even proportionatly.
thats because it is legal and available to buy anywhere and everywhere and more people consume it on a daily basis, if the other drugs were available like alcohol im pretty confident that alcohol wud be knocked down that list as a killer pretty quickly
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Rebecca
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E is no worse than alcohol. At the end of the day they are both drugs. One is just legal so the government cant make shit loads of money from tax. If they could find a way of controling e sales/distribution they would and they would tax it.
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Rebecca
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The legality argument is stupid.
Your saying you never speed on a road? Never break any laws?
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drunkenfool
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Now there is a reason why the Class A, B and C drugs are illegal and alcohol isnt
Tax?! A great quote off that documentary about ecstacy was that the main problem with it, was that there was no problem. Hundreds of thousands of people were using it with no problem, and the government was getting scared that it would start to lose income from tax, so started a massive campaign based on false findings and downright lies, trying to convince the american public (and hence the british public too) that ecstacy is not a "benign, fun drug" and that each time you take it is "like playuing russian roulette with your brain", when its just not true 
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Steve
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why cant they just sell E in the same way they do alcohol bex?
they could, they choose not to, for a reason
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LeeM
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Originally posted by A1EX
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Originally posted by novabex
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Originally posted by A1EX
Alcohol cannot be classed even in the same league as some of them drugs and there effects
Alcohol has worst effects than most drugs.
More people die from alcohol than drugs. Even proportionatly.
thats because it is legal and available to buy anywhere and everywhere and more people consume it on a daily basis, if the other drugs were available like alcohol im pretty confident that alcohol wud be knocked down that list as a killer pretty quickly
key word here is proportionaly
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different drugs affect different people.
cannabis aint legal cuz government cant tax it-FACT
government allow alcohol cuz they can tax it-FACT
personally i have a joint every coupla months if that-chills me out and in no way do i crave it.
i was always told if i took weed id end up on "the hard stuff" and id reck my brain.
oh.
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Rebecca
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Drugs are readily available. You just don't know where to look.
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Steve
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The legality argument is stupid.
Your saying you never speed on a road? Never break any laws?
wtf that makes no sense, what we are saying is, because alcohol is legal a lot of people drink it, so a lot of incidents happen, if drugs were made legal then the same would happen, which is why they are not legal.
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Rebecca
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Originally posted by Steve
why cant they just sell E in the same way they do alcohol bex?
they could, they choose not to, for a reason
Because they would have to control every sale of it to tax it.
And they can't.
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Steve
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why cant they just sell E in the same way they do alcohol bex?
they could, they choose not to, for a reason
Because they would have to control every sale of it to tax it.
And they can't.
why ? its just a tablet, they could produce and sell it how they wanted
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drunkenfool
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Ive NEVER SAID THAT DRUGS ARE GOOD!
i didnt necessarily mean you, others keep saying, E's no worse than alcohol blah blah etc
In my eyes Es are no worse than alcohol though. Nobody can say alcohol is good, but people take it cos they enjoy the effects. They understand the associated risks, but in a cost/benefit analysis, decide that they will take it, despite the fact it's a dangerous, addictive poison. Nobody NEEDS to drink alcohol, the same as doing pills, but they enjoy the effects and life is about enjoyment and pleasure!!!
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A1EX
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well im pretty sure its not as easy as walking into my local off licence and buying it?!
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Rebecca
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The legality argument is stupid.
Your saying you never speed on a road? Never break any laws?
wtf that makes no sense, what we are saying is, because alcohol is legal a lot of people drink it, so a lot of incidents happen, if drugs were made legal then the same would happen, which is why they are not legal.
The same wouldn't happen though.
And in a way there you just said there that alcohol and drugs are similar and similar incidents would happen.
So drugs are no worse than alcohol. You just said it yourself.
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Hammer
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Lets get real here, are folk arguing it should be ok for people to walk down the street high on ecstacy? That's a non argument imo.
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