Chump
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yes - that is far more humane than them being ripped apart. A gun shot to the head would be instant and painless.....it works for cattle so why should it be any different for Fox's? If a species has to be culled it should all be done in the same way......as humanely as possible IMO
[Edited on 29-11-2004 by Chump]
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3CorsaMeal
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i'm feeling angry now at what they did.
am gonna stanley blade up their horse's tonight  feel my rage
am burn their front porches
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Jodi_the_g
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Originally posted by corsa_fella
and your entitle to your opinion!
but in argument to that most the foxes do actually get away i know in the last 3 weeks theyve only got 5 foxes!
so would you rather farmers sittin in a truck in middle of night blowing there brains away with 12 bores! AND thed get more than 5
Can't shot foxs with 12 bores, would have to be a rife which is dangerous, plus the fact you can not ensure it dies if you have a bad shot, and could bleed to death suffering for ages.
At least the fox is dead with second/mins with dogs
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vibrio
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Originally posted by corsa_fella
sounds like your rather shallow minded on the subject vibrio look at it from everyones point of view..
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farmers up here are glad about the hunt because they don;t get roffs riding on horses through their land, damaging hedge rows, leaving gates open and fucking up their fields
there actually breaking the law if they go out on land without permission!!
not up here MoFu no law of trespass
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whatever they were doing it scared me and my passengers, and my m8's granparents in front.
i would have run out and twatted one of em mate there the ones who give it a bad rep
I would have too
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if that was the case and it's all about the ride then why are people getting upset about it. I suspect you need to STFU and deal with the fact that using dogs to chase a fox with the intention of killing it is a cruel sport not hunting.
sounds like you dont know much about what your on about pal, why say something like that without knowing all the facts, the ppl who actaully hunt the fox at the front of the pack,(where the other riders arent actually aloud near) are trained professional game keepers most of them workin in a local area for years before being aloud to "master" a hunt,
ITS ALL A SOCIAL DAY OUT PAL,OUT OF 100% OF PPL WHO ATTEND A HUNT 40% OF THE GUYS ACTUALLY GIVE A TOSS ABOUT THE DAYS HUNTING, THERE JUST THERE TO RIDE THE HORSES THROUGH THE COUNTRY!!
i could giv a toss wether we got a fox everytime but i feckin love blattin about on a 400cc quad bike for the day!
you need to know alot more FACTS before you say things like that ,as those comment are why its being banned!
well lets see
people chase a fox with dogs, fox gets tired and slows down, fox gets ripped apart by dogs.
if people were just in it for the ride about the country side and the social aspects then the ban would actually have no effect.....
p.s please stop calling me your pal as I have no wish to be associated with the likes of you
[Edited on 29-11-2004 by vibrio]
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Colin
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I dont see the problem with fox hunting.....its a sport like any other yes sometimes if they catch it a fox will get killed but then what about all the livestock killed each year by foxes and now because of this law the thousands of hounds that will be exterminated due to no longer being required?
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linz
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most people that are against it know nothing about it and don't know the facts, they just say 'awww the poor foxes' when its not about hunting foxes at all these days, yes some are toffs, but you have to respect TRADITION and stop being so narrow minded
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corsa_fella
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unfortunately when "hunting with dogs is banned", what do u fink the'l then kill them with alot nastier things than a hound breaking its neck in 3 seconds, i.e possibly chemicals,shooting ,netting,smoking, they could use any of those v,cruel methods to KULL not MURDER a fox, and the ponces will still go out exersizing there horses and to socialise just minus the hounds !
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linz
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Exactly, the people going on about the poor foxes, dont think about the hounds...? they are trained to kill foxes, they aren't domesticated as pets and it will not be easy to re home them all
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Jodi_the_g
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Can't Poison as you can not gantuare you poison foxs, hence why rat posion traps only have small holes.
Shooting would be dangerous as you have to us a rife and could injury people, plus it is quite hard to shot something dead in the head, in fact you are trained to aim for the body as it is a bigger surface area,
Netting again you can not ensure you only get fox's.
Anyway you hit seals over the head with clubs in scotland
[Edited on 29-11-2004 by Jodi_the_g]
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corsa_fella
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beagles,learches and other breads bred into hunting, is not safe to rehome as they could be viscous or get bored in a confined space! it wouldnt be ideal, i know from my uncle that if it comes to it his 200 will be gassed!
IT WILL BREAK his heart!
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vibrio
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Originally posted by linz
most people that are against it know nothing about it and don't know the facts, they just say 'awww the poor foxes' when its not about hunting foxes at all these days, yes some are toffs, but you have to respect TRADITION and stop being so narrow minded
sorry but you don;t have to respect TRADITION
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Colin
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Originally posted by linz
Exactly, the people going on about the poor foxes, dont think about the hounds...? they are trained to kill foxes, they aren't domesticated as pets and it will not be easy to re home them all
There pack animals trained to hunt from day 1.....they could never re home them....I think they should give them to the people that voted this in and let them deal with it....suited up wankers!
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linz
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only one in 5 hunts ends in a fox being killed anyway, even then, a healthy fox is rarely caught, they are usually old and/or injured foxes
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vibrio
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Originally posted by linz
Exactly, the people going on about the poor foxes, dont think about the hounds...? they are trained to kill foxes, they aren't domesticated as pets and it will not be easy to re home them all
no sorry but the hounds will only be treated badly if their owners choose to do so.
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3CorsaMeal
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i couldn't of got out and thumped one, was in middle of main road, and they were in full gallop
was about 3 horses and a quad bike, bloke on quad bike weren't happy about the 4 lads in corsa giving him the finger, shouting at him and had airhorn held down.
i know where they live, people fail to think about this
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vibrio
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only one in 5 hunts ends in a fox being killed anyway, even then, a healthy fox is rarely caught, they are usually old and/or injured foxes
and thats 1 in 5 too many
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linz
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Originally posted by Kolin
There pack animals trained to hunt from day 1.....they could never re home them....I think they should give them to the people that voted this in and let them deal with it....suited up wankers!
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corsa_fella
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fair point vibrio if your not interested in it them y the feck should u respect someone else tradiotion, its like tellin a christian to belive like a hindu, it aint gonna happen! the poor fact is that inside the hunting circles, there is a minority spoiling it for the majority!
not enough "outsiders"are educated on the matter well enought to base a realistic opinion!
and the countrysides been doin just fine being looked after by generations of these ppl for hundreds of years,so way change it now!!!
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Jodi_the_g
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Originally posted by broster
I have no problem with fox hunting, fishing or shooting, what i do have a problem with however is the attitude of the actual fox hunters, they have no one to blame but them selves for the lack of support, they are rude and arrogent!
Yeah but thats the ones they show on telly
for example you when ever a bomb goes off in an arab country we get some sucide bomber on telly 'saying death to the west' and vis visa in the arab country they most likey get the grand high dragon from the KKK saying 'I think i gona burn some darkies'
When ever somethingis on telly and they want to get your emotions up they find the extermist.
[Edited on 29-11-2004 by Jodi_the_g]
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corsa_fella
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i'm feeling angry now at what they did.
im going to knife there horses
and you , you little toss pot how was it the horses fault!
that is pathetic
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Tiger
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Ok, a fox is like a small dog within reason, so lets get a small family pet and chase it through the countryside before ripping it apart, better than letting them shit all over over the pavements.
Ban fox-hunting in my opinion, were not living in the dark ages anymore, theres no need to retard ourselves to an age when running round the countryside was the only thing to do. This is the 21st century now, lets act like it and just drive fast cars instead of praying on defenseless animals and let nature take its course with them instead of us intervening.
[Edited on 29-11-2004 by Tiger]
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corsa_fella
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no sorry but the hounds will only be treated badly if their owners choose to do so.
you cannot rehome a hound ito becoming a "pet"
its cruel for the animal
unless maybee farmers took them on, but u still wouldnt let them run free as there natural killer instinct would come in???
this argument could go on forever as there a 3 types of ppl here
people who know something valuable
people who know jack shite
and people like vibrio who think they know it all, and will take the defensive in responce to anything constructive ever said on the subject!
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Jodi_the_g
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Yes but sheep, cattle any livestock is not nature, they are they for us to eat, and foxes damage these. If you had several 1000 pounds worth of stock and some so called familiy pet wrecked it time and time again you would just leave it?
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Thoday
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TBH every comment vibrio has said for once makes sense and is correct
its not a sport, what killing is a sport, there is a difference between fishing and hunting easily, 
and they say that it ruins their life banning hunting its not a job its a hobby, as is cleaning out a barn and cleaning a horse.. get a proper fooking job ffs
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Jodi_the_g
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Just to clear up matters I am not a fox hunting protester, just going to experance it but can't see the harm.
[Edited on 29-11-2004 by Jodi_the_g]
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