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iceman
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23rd May 05 at 17:38   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

doesnt feel any slower, in fact it feels quicker if im honest and the economy has been improved loads
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quote:
Originally posted by iceman
different rolling road


This could be your answer. Does it feel slow to you?
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diffrent rolling road could be the prob

i would seriously consider having it live mapped, lads on passionford say its the way forwards


having it live mapped has the problem of finding somewhere quiet enough to do it tho, air field would be ideal... (am i right in thinking a live map is when its mapped on the road)


yep you would be right mark, one of the ford tuners (NMS) seem to map all there cars now with fantastic results though
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id go somewhere else for a rolling orad set up, i know jamsport can help you there for £130ish i think for a rolling road set up... or just a power run for £40ish, and they are very good......
iceman
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it dont feel any slower
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Originally posted by broster
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Originally posted by jr
diffrent rolling road could be the prob

i would seriously consider having it live mapped, lads on passionford say its the way forwards


having it live mapped has the problem of finding somewhere quiet enough to do it tho, air field would be ideal... (am i right in thinking a live map is when its mapped on the road)


yep you would be right mark, one of the ford tuners (NMS) seem to map all there cars now with fantastic results though


it would be the way forward really if there is space available as its getting the air flow etc unlike a rolling road......
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only way to test is race another 2.0 standard one and see who wins lol sorry im no help
iceman
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still dont explain a 30bhp loss and bhp figures simular to standard xe's ish
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quote:
Originally posted by iceman
doesnt feel any slower, in fact it feels quicker if im honest and the economy has been improved loads


Phone other rolling roads and explain your problem to them. One of them may well give you a good deal to pop down and fill a cancellation spot for them to have a look. Ive done this before, filled a spot when someone cancelled and got it cheaper, as they would rather get money than sit around earning nothing. I saved 60 quid.
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quote:
Originally posted by corsa-crazy
only way to test is race another 2.0 standard one and see who wins lol sorry im no help


anyone wanna race
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Originally posted by corsa-crazy
only way to test is race another 2.0 standard one and see who wins lol sorry im no help


yawn! no its not the way to sort it tho is it!
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quote:
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still dont explain a 30bhp loss and bhp figures simular to standard xe's ish


maybe its not lost that!? how does it perform on the road, you say its a bit quicker and more economical!
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23rd May 05 at 17:45   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

deffo more economical doesnt feel slow at all
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maybee one firgure was at the fly and one at the wheels?
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quote:
Originally posted by iceman
deffo more economical doesnt feel slow at all


Id rather spend 100 quid at another RR than thousands trying to find a problem that might not even exist.
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quote:
Originally posted by iceman
deffo more economical doesnt feel slow at all


recommended a company via u2u (or look at my sig for contact info) maybe its the rollers playing up, if the graphs are nice and good?!
iceman
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funny thing is i saw 208bhp while he was mapping the high end,. he then replied that aint the true bhp figure what ever that means
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They can never get a perfectly accurate conversion from wheels back to the fly wheel, theres no equation for it.


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maybee one firgure was at the fly and one at the wheels?


That would make sense for the difference - but possibly not for the torque.

It's v.strange. I could only imagine with those mods if it's geniunely running that power (171) the setup of the cams / timing / offset to each other must be way off to cause it not to run at it's best.

can't you get tom to just put the original cams in as if it was completely standard and then see what happens? should increase the torque figure anyway - as cams tend to reduce overall torque but extend it further on the rev range.
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im doind some reserch on this on PF
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ooo the figures produced from the rolling road report are flywheel figures or wheels figures?
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if it feels better than it did when it was 205bhp, it suggests that one set of rollers was slightly badly calibrated!
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quote:
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ooo the figures produced from the rolling road report are flywheel figures or wheels figures?


some do both some just do wheel some just do flywheel!

can yo uscan the graph in??
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23rd May 05 at 17:54   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

im too embarressed to show the power graph to be honest
Ojc
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23rd May 05 at 17:58   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

If you think its running better I would disregard all power figures and get it up the pod and see what it does.

If your getting mid 14's with that kinda power then there is nothing wrong. If your getting mid 15's there is something wrong.

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