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Cybermonkey

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23rd Jul 06 at 14:24

look at chav per LED though, VTS suffers with this, unless its in Essex

Steve

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23rd Jul 06 at 14:31

i agree that goes someway towards it, if an XE is producing bang on factory 150bhp and weighs 995kg (being very conservative as thats for a 1.4 16v)

say a gti is making factory 125bhp and weighs 850kg

the corsa = 153bhp/t
the gti = 150bhp/t

3 bhp aint gonna make any diff and some gti's/vts's came out with 130bhp

[Edited on 23-07-2006 by Steve]

craig_s

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23rd Jul 06 at 14:35

but a c20xe will have a lot more torque 2 pull the weight of the car .id say a c20xe shud kill a vts

Cybermonkey

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23rd Jul 06 at 14:38

quote:
Originally posted by Steve
i agree that goes someway towards it, if an XE is producing bang on factory 150bhp and weighs 995kg (being very conservative as thats for a 1.4 16v)

say a gti is making factory 125bhp and weighs 850kg

the corsa = 153bhp/t
the gti = 150bhp/t

3 bhp aint gonna make any diff and some gti's/vts's came out with 130bhp

[Edited on 23-07-2006 by Steve]

Sport/GSi's are 985kg, and thats with air/con ticked too...

Steve

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23rd Jul 06 at 14:39

quote:
Originally posted by sri power
but a c20xe will have a lot more torque 2 pull the weight of the car .id say a c20xe shud kill a vts

id say your talking out your ass, muppet is speaking sense

mav

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23rd Jul 06 at 15:02

my old xe, full interior etc RR'd at 156bhp pulled away from VTS's right through the range...20-100

Steve

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23rd Jul 06 at 15:08

people are also losing site of the fact that a few bhp advantage wont mean you pull away like its going backwards, you might pull a car length or so over a 1/4 mile, but to get any real advantage you need a good 70-100bhp over something else

Sooty

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23rd Jul 06 at 20:40

quote:
Originally posted by DaNnY_LaD
A Xe should piss on a Vts if ur driving it proberly

yeah right

and-m

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23rd Jul 06 at 20:45

quote:
Originally posted by Steve
people are also losing site of the fact that a few bhp advantage wont mean you pull away like its going backwards, you might pull a car length or so over a 1/4 mile, but to get any real advantage you need a good 70-100bhp over something else

If VTSs are hitting mid 15s and some Corsa XEs mid 14s Id say that was more than a car length.

Sooty

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23rd Jul 06 at 20:48

quote:
Originally posted by and-m

quote:
Originally posted by Steve
people are also losing site of the fact that a few bhp advantage wont mean you pull away like its going backwards, you might pull a car length or so over a 1/4 mile, but to get any real advantage you need a good 70-100bhp over something else

If VTSs are hitting mid 15s and some Corsa XEs mid 14s Id say that was more than a car length.

some VTS's hit 15 dead 1/4 std.... and to be honest most XE'd corsa's dont get into the 14s standard mate

mark_d

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23rd Jul 06 at 20:48

quote:
Originally posted by and-m

quote:
Originally posted by Steve
people are also losing site of the fact that a few bhp advantage wont mean you pull away like its going backwards, you might pull a car length or so over a 1/4 mile, but to get any real advantage you need a good 70-100bhp over something else

If VTSs are hitting mid 15s and some Corsa XEs mid 14s Id say that was more than a car length.

do standard XEs hit mid 14s?

Sooty

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23rd Jul 06 at 20:49

quote:
Originally posted by mark_d

quote:
Originally posted by and-m

quote:
Originally posted by Steve
people are also losing site of the fact that a few bhp advantage wont mean you pull away like its going backwards, you might pull a car length or so over a 1/4 mile, but to get any real advantage you need a good 70-100bhp over something else

If VTSs are hitting mid 15s and some Corsa XEs mid 14s Id say that was more than a car length.

do standard XEs hit mid 14s?

no.

mark_d

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23rd Jul 06 at 20:50

thought so. so and-m's comment has no relevance at all

Sooty

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23rd Jul 06 at 20:51

its a common misconception on this website that corsa XE's are faster than they ACTUALLY are...

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23rd Jul 06 at 20:52

its also a common misconception people listen to your opinion

willay

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23rd Jul 06 at 20:56

Sooty

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23rd Jul 06 at 20:57

quote:
Originally posted by jr
its also a common misconception people listen to your opinion

i think your confused with fact

jamied

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23rd Jul 06 at 20:59

who listens to his opinion

Sooty

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23rd Jul 06 at 21:01

quote:
Originally posted by 306CORSA
who listens to his opinion

jesus christ

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23rd Jul 06 at 21:01

yes, fact how ??? how can you place a fact on a misconception ?

all you ever seem to post is downbeat or comment slagging of peoples cars etc

willay

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23rd Jul 06 at 21:02

jr;

a) northerner
b) mr2 driver

pick.

jamied

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23rd Jul 06 at 21:03

totally agree JR, i just said tht in another thread..

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23rd Jul 06 at 21:03

quote:
Originally posted by willay
jr;

a) northerner
b) mr2 driver

pick.

Robin

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23rd Jul 06 at 21:05

Steve is right anyway. 150, 156 whatever BHP, a kitted corsa wirh 17s and an install is gonna weigh substantially more than a saxo/106, and it wont be devastatingly quick.

Sooty

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23rd Jul 06 at 21:08

quote:
Originally posted by willay
jr;

a) northerner
b) mr2 driver

pick.

sorry not an mr2 driver anymore

yes people from the south sound very intelligent

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