Jules S
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Given the money involved I would have thought he is comission based.
Better to leave any job on good terms, playing up will just see you sacked and a poor reference 
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Dave A
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Jules, my wages are made up of about 70% commission so I have no choice but to work hard
but thats what I enjoy doing! but working hard isnt the main attribute that my company looks for in an employee, its wether they can use a swipe card properly it seems
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Jules S
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Explain how you feel and suggest flexitime?
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Dave A
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the managing director has told me that theres a job there for life if i want it (which I do) but I cant cope with being employed.
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Jules
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quote:
Originally posted by Dave A
Jules, my wages are made up of about 70% commission so I have no choice but to work hard
but thats what I enjoy doing! but working hard isnt the main attribute that my company looks for in an employee, its wether they can use a swipe card properly it seems
Hmm on a bit of a sticky wicket then I'm afraid, at the end of the day they do pay your big wages, but you do work damned hard for them and I'm sure if you weren't pulling your weight then you would of been pulled up on it by now.
Only thing I can suggest is maybe trying to work out somekind of agreement where you meet in the middle - can you work be done from home? Maybe suggest a cut in commisions if you can work from home?
Hard to know what to suggest without knowing the in's and outs of your job really
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Jules
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quote:
Originally posted by Jules S
Explain how you feel and suggest flexitime?
Or what my namesake suggested! 
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Ian
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Originally posted by Dave A
Is it just my place or do other employers whinge about the most pathetic things even if you do your job properly and meet your targets etc...
Your ability to do the job properly is largely ignored when it comes to moaning about nothing.
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Jules S
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It's sales though...
If the bloke is good at what he does, then his employers are going to try to get the absolute Max out of him.
I'd be interested to hear what he does too.....I see loads of reps/sales/designers.....and they all come to see me. I can't see an office based salesman being much use 
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Dave A
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working from home is an option If they allow me to go self employed again, Infact thats the only way I could do it.
The reason I was forced to go employed in the first place was to do with the companies insurance and having self emplyed people working from the premises.
also the 2 hours a day in a car getting back and fore to work is a pain.
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Dave A
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jules s what do you do?
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Jules S
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quote:
Originally posted by Dave A
jules s what do you do?
Architect
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Robbo
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quote:
Originally posted by Dave A
working from home is an option If they allow me to go self employed again, Infact thats the only way I could do it.
The reason I was forced to go employed in the first place was to do with the companies insurance and having self emplyed people working from the premises.
also the 2 hours a day in a car getting back and fore to work is a pain.
Sounds much more like an IR35 thing tbh... u would hav ebeen deemd t be employed regardles sof your actual employment status...
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Robbo
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quote:
Originally posted by Jules S
quote:
Originally posted by Sam
They sound gay, hand in your notice. 
true,
But he must be on a fair amount of £££, and he's in sales.
Nasty cut throat world that
Hell yes, I was conducting a Sarbanes Oxley test recently (US Corp Gov. Audit thing) and got to view targets that sales people must meet and what they must get into every call etc... hideous hideous job BUT if you are good at it there are few things that pay as well!!
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Jules S
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Any sales/commission job is a hiding to nothing.
These days I can sometimes see 10 reps/salesmen or more a week.
I've lost count of the amount of times i've heard 'yeah, good job a few years back...earned them £3m of sales last year....now they've upped my target quotia to £4m'
Thankless task IMO....had a rep last week who wasn't allowed/couldn't visit me.
I simply decided to specify a different product that their rep could visit and run me through the product 
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Robbo
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Can be a nonsense!
Well if I get the role im after it is as a commerical anlyst (ie sales analyst) so can kick them uo the arse for u!
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JadeM
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Tell them to go fuck themselves if your not happy!!! Thats what I do
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Crutey
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How about doin the crap job and saving up to give you a start on the average pay good job?
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Matt H
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Im in this same boat at the moment except my job pays nowhere near what Dave gets
Can I have your job? 
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Nath
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B for a while, then when your comfortable switch to A.
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Robbo
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Originally posted by Matt H
Im in this same boat at the moment except my job pays nowhere near what Dave gets
Can I have your job?
Yoiur welcome to my job, £27k pa but its dulla s shit and u have to deal with a bunvch of foreign morons 
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Matt H
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Course you have to deal with foreign morons, it is England after all 
PS thanks, when do I start?
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Robbo
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lol mostly stoopid americans lol
give it 3 mths until i have got a new job lol
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JadeM
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I left my job to take a lesser paid one for a few months then back to college & hopefully get another job after that paying 3x what I was on!! Im just enjoying life atm & not taking work too seriously!! I want to have a good mix of A & B by the time I have as many commitments that I have no choice but to slog away at it!! Just now I dont so im not giving a fuck!!
[Edited on 01-08-2006 by JadeM]
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Dave A
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Called a meeting with the boss today and said that I am going to leave at the end of the month due to the petty behaviour and treatment of certain senior staff in personell. he agreed that I was right and asked what I wanted.
Got what I wanted, working from home, self employed, keep my basic salary as a retainer and full commission.
 cant wait to work from home, no getting up at 8am, no 30 mile drive to work, no clocking in and out, no 40% tax to pay, no boss, no silly office politics.
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Ry_B
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Nice one!
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