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drax
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21st Jan 07 at 21:32   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Im currently taking whey protein of some sort, its downstairs cant remmeber what

and just started on CEE + N2o, Ngorge.

my daily diet is something like this, altho ive not got around to eating tuna as im not a fan of fish and this is an obstical i need to overcome.

Breakfast

Bowl of Porridge
Muller Light Yoghurt
ON Whey Shake (Milk)
Banana
Creatine

Mid Morning

Tuna Salad Sandwich
Apple

Lunch

Tuna/Chicken/Ham and Sweetcorn Salad
Rice
4 Ham slices
Apple

Mid afternoon

Chicken breast/Slices
Wholemal Pitta/Fajita Wrap
Fruit Portion

Dinner

Chicken Breasts/ Steak/Turkey/Pork
Rice/Rice Pudding/Fajita Wrap/Pitta/Baked beans
Sweetcorn or other veg
Salad
Creatine

Post workout

ON Whey Shake (Water)

9.45pm approx

6 Boiled Egg Whites
1/2 Yolks
Ham slices
1.5 Pieces Wholemeal Toast

Pre bed

Glass of Skimmed Milk


Also, im taking about 3-4 litres of water a day maybe more
Ben J
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21st Jan 07 at 21:33   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by sigibbons
quote:
Originally posted by bjackso2x
My usual day is no breakfast.

Lunch at work of meat/potatos/pasta

Evening meal at home or work of similar type.

And random snacks inbetween like chocolate/crisps/cheese/yoghurts


I think you should cut down on snacks and get a good brekkie. Although, im no expert.


I think I should too........

Would a supplement drink work as breakfast?
drax
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21st Jan 07 at 21:33   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I was on creatine monohydrate but i was told its not great and it makes you piss like a camel
Ben J
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quote:
Originally posted by drax
Im currently taking whey protein of some sort, its downstairs cant remmeber what

and just started on CEE + N2o, Ngorge.

my daily diet is something like this, altho ive not got around to eating tuna as im not a fan of fish and this is an obstical i need to overcome.

Breakfast

Bowl of Porridge
Muller Light Yoghurt
ON Whey Shake (Milk)
Banana
Creatine

Mid Morning

Tuna Salad Sandwich
Apple

Lunch

Tuna/Chicken/Ham and Sweetcorn Salad
Rice
4 Ham slices
Apple

Mid afternoon

Chicken breast/Slices
Wholemal Pitta/Fajita Wrap
Fruit Portion

Dinner

Chicken Breasts/ Steak/Turkey/Pork
Rice/Rice Pudding/Fajita Wrap/Pitta/Baked beans
Sweetcorn or other veg
Salad
Creatine

Post workout

ON Whey Shake (Water)

9.45pm approx

6 Boiled Egg Whites
1/2 Yolks
Ham slices
1.5 Pieces Wholemeal Toast

Pre bed

Glass of Skimmed Milk


Also, im taking about 3-4 litres of water a day maybe more


That sounds a bit hardcore for me!
drax
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21st Jan 07 at 21:35   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Its doing me fine, only started the gym again a week and a half ago.. feeling much better and am improving all the time.

I am also addicted to water now haha

[Edited on 21-01-2007 by drax]
sigibbons
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21st Jan 07 at 21:36   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Dont you guys worry about taking all the weird drugs/suppliments?

Couldnt you get the same effect with a better diet?
Ben J
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Basically it sounds like if you eat healthy/protein based meals...and train...you are on to a good thing!?
drax
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Im not taking any weird drugs, suppliments are exactly what they are..

supplimental dietry food to accomodate the workload you put your body through
sigibbons
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quote:
Originally posted by drax
Im not taking any weird drugs, suppliments are exactly what they are..

supplimental dietry food to accomodate the workload you put your body through


Oh right, well i dont have a clue about suppliments but if they work well with your diet then thats good.

I think i need to start eating more but i dont know what to eat more of? But dont want to get fat.
Ben J
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21st Jan 07 at 21:41   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by sigibbons
quote:
Originally posted by drax
Im not taking any weird drugs, suppliments are exactly what they are..

supplimental dietry food to accomodate the workload you put your body through


Oh right, well i dont have a clue about suppliments but if they work well with your diet then thats good.

I think i need to start eating more but i dont know what to eat more of? But dont want to get fat.


Low fat/high protein foods I reckon. If you go to the gym 5 times per week then i doubt you will get fat!



[Edited on 21-01-2007 by bjackso2x]
drax
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21st Jan 07 at 21:41   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

www.bodybuilding.com

hundred of articles on training and nutrition on there, just gotta read alot till u understand, also theres some gymmy fitness people on here who are like personal trainers who have given me advice here and there.

Just gotta get information from people and work your days to the best to acheive your goals
sigibbons
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quote:
Originally posted by bjackso2x
quote:
Originally posted by sigibbons
quote:
Originally posted by drax
Im not taking any weird drugs, suppliments are exactly what they are..

supplimental dietry food to accomodate the workload you put your body through


Oh right, well i dont have a clue about suppliments but if they work well with your diet then thats good.

I think i need to start eating more but i dont know what to eat more of? But dont want to get fat.


Low fat/high protein foods I reckon. If you go to the gym 5 times per week then i doubt you will get fat!



[Edited on 21-01-2007 by bjackso2x]


I shouldnt get fat also as i work as a site carpenter so get a bit of a workout during the day.

Sorry for the dumb questions but what foods are Low fat/high protein foods?
Craig W
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Here's what im eating at the moment, and this isn't even a bulking diet. If i was bulking i'd be eating alot more. This is what the average man who trains doesnt realise. To get big you have to eat ALOT. The gym is the easy part, eating large quantities of food every 2-3 hours is the hard part...

MEAL 1 (breakfast): 150g porridge oats (made with water), stir in 70g whey protein. 1 banana.


MEAL 2 (morning): 300g chicken breast. 250g brown rice. Large salad with 1 table spoon of olive oil.


MEAL 3 (late morning): 80g whey protein (in water) with 1 tablespoon of flax oil blended in. 1 low GI bagel (tesco). 1 apple.


MEAL 4 (lunch): as MEAL 2.


MEAL 5 (pre-workout): 50g maltodextrin. 40g whey. 5g creatine. 5g glutamine.


MEAL 6 (post-workout): as MEAL 5.


MEAL 7 (evening): 300g steak. Large portion veg. If carbs needed: 250g baked potato.


MEAL 8 (before bed): 70g whey with 1 tablespoon of flax oil (in water).
abdus
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21st Jan 07 at 21:48   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by drax
I was on creatine monohydrate but i was told its not great and it makes you piss like a camel


glutamine and BCAA are better
Laney
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21st Jan 07 at 21:49   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by Craig W
The gym is the easy part, eating large quantities of food every 2-3 hours is the hard part...


I agree with this totally. I was told I was underweight when I joined the gym and found the eating REALLY difficult. I wasn't used to eating that amount that often!

[Edited on 21-01-2007 by Laney]
sigibbons
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Surely if your bulking and eating alot, you have to be lifting weights alot or you will get fat. How do you know what the correct ratio is?
Ben J
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21st Jan 07 at 22:00   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by Craig W
Here's what im eating at the moment, and this isn't even a bulking diet. If i was bulking i'd be eating alot more. This is what the average man who trains doesnt realise. To get big you have to eat ALOT. The gym is the easy part, eating large quantities of food every 2-3 hours is the hard part...

MEAL 1 (breakfast): 150g porridge oats (made with water), stir in 70g whey protein. 1 banana.


MEAL 2 (morning): 300g chicken breast. 250g brown rice. Large salad with 1 table spoon of olive oil.


MEAL 3 (late morning): 80g whey protein (in water) with 1 tablespoon of flax oil blended in. 1 low GI bagel (tesco). 1 apple.


MEAL 4 (lunch): as MEAL 2.


MEAL 5 (pre-workout): 50g maltodextrin. 40g whey. 5g creatine. 5g glutamine.


MEAL 6 (post-workout): as MEAL 5.


MEAL 7 (evening): 300g steak. Large portion veg. If carbs needed: 250g baked potato.


MEAL 8 (before bed): 70g whey with 1 tablespoon of flax oil (in water).


Do you not get bored eating the same every day?

Craig W
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21st Jan 07 at 22:02   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I get bored of eating every 2-3 hours. I dont get bored of what i eat because i change my food sources.
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quote:
Originally posted by sigibbons
Surely if your bulking and eating alot, you have to be lifting weights alot or you will get fat. How do you know what the correct ratio is?


By working out you much calories you need. Lots of stuff like BMR, thermic effect of food, how much energy you expend with physical attivity etc.
OPbviously there are many variables so its not easy to work out, you can't say you need x amount of carbs, x amount of protein, you can work it out to a certain extent then try it, and adapt it to see how it goes to suit an individual.

[Edited on 21-01-2007 by Carl]
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21st Jan 07 at 22:12   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

if you already have fat, is it easier to turn it into muscle rather then bulking out?

im quite fat (12st), but its slowly going.

whats best way to turn fat to muscle, i eat quite a good diet too. any tips?
drax
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21st Jan 07 at 22:12   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

You dont lift weights alot when your bulking, you lift large weights, low reps and high weights

cutting you do high reps and what ever weights really to tone up and cut the fat back
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quote:
Originally posted by Wrighty
if you already have fat, is it easier to turn it into muscle rather then bulking out?

im quite fat (12st), but its slowly going.

whats best way to turn fat to muscle, i eat quite a good diet too. any tips?


fat doesn't turn into muscle. They are two seperate things. 12st and your fat? are you short? Putting it simply, To burn fat you need to have a negative calorific ratio, two, options, increase the energy expendature, or decrease intake. BEst thing is to have an healthy balanced diet, and then increase physical activity.

[Edited on 21-01-2007 by Carl]
Craig W
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Fat is fat. Muscle is muscle. Thats like asking how to change 50p into £1
Ben J
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I've opened a whole can of worms with this thread!
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alrite, that cleared that up

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