Cosmo
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My view on the dangerous dogs act, and dangerous dogs in general is this...
Its not the dogs that are the problem, its the owners that are in charge of them. A pitbull, Rotty, or any other 'dangerous' dog can be perfectly fine in a good home, as good as any other kind of dog out there that is readily accepted.
The RSPCA doesnt even support the Dangerous Dogs act as feel banning of certain breeds isnt right, thats why with this current anti-pitbull crusade by the police they are refusing to help or huse any of the dogs they take.
And also...I wouldnt leave any dog with a small child. We have an Old English Sheepdog who is the softest dog I have ever seen. We have had her nearly 13yrs and know she would never do anything to hurt anyone, but we would still never leave her alone with my young nephew.
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baza31
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Cosmo- i disagree with you on this . I know what your getting at that if you bring a dog up it will be good. this is correct in a normal breed. The thing is with pits is they were bred for fighting. There will of been a fighter in its family tree and in its genes.
They are time bombs- when they start getting like this they need destroying
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Cosmo
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this is the case for all dogs, not just Pits, thats what Im trying to say.
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Originally posted by Cosmo
this is the case for all dogs, not just Pits, thats what Im trying to say.
I think what he is saying is that most aggression in dogs has been reduced by selective breeding...
Sure they all retain aggressive behaviour but at differing levels. The larger/more aggressive breeds pose more of a danger becuase of their ability to inflict injury.
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Cosmo
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yeah, I wont argue the fact that the larger breeds obviously offer more danger due to size and strength, but anyone saying Pit Bulls offer more danger due to past breeding/image/etc havent taken the time to visit the 100's of kennelclub websites and similar that prove this wrong.
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baza31
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put it this way , id leave my kid in with my westie over my mates pitt.
Even though its a nice dog, when you look at you get that feeling of insecurity
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a dog is what you want it to be, you want a bad dog train it to be a bad dog! if you want a good dog train it to be a good dog! its the same as humans if you have a problem child do you leave him to be a little shit all his life NO you shout him in the face and say LISTEN TO ME BOY OR ELSE! same as a dog problem solved i hate cunts listen to other people about dog breeds that have a bad name get a grip!
[Edited on 23-01-2007 by dave..GSi]
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Cosmo
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put it this way , id leave my kid in with my westie over my mates pitt.
Even though its a nice dog, when you look at you get that feeling of insecurity
as I said above, I wouldnt leave any small children with any dog. The majority of breeds have at some point in the past attacked a human, normally after provocation, so its just not worth the risk.
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To people that own the rotties or pit bulls why do you not get a different breed of dog?
why do you have to have a breed that is classed as a dangerous dog, is it an image thing?
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dave..GSi
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if the dog is trained to be good then it wouldnt attack anyone its all about training the dog!!!! people dont realise this?
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Cosmo
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Originally posted by ianofbhills
To people that own the rotties or pit bulls why do you not get a different breed of dog?
why do you have to have a breed that is classed as a dangerous dog, is it an image thing?
why not?
I personally want to own a Pit as I like the look of them. Im well past the stage of wanting to look hard so certainly not for that. Plus they are renowned for being well behaved, trainable dogs that are very loyal.
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To people that own the rotties or pit bulls why do you not get a different breed of dog?
why do you have to have a breed that is classed as a dangerous dog, is it an image thing?
because the rottweiler is a beautiful dog. why get a 2 litre turbo corsa? why not get a metro 1.1???? same thing mate
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Originally posted by Cosmo
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Originally posted by ianofbhills
To people that own the rotties or pit bulls why do you not get a different breed of dog?
why do you have to have a breed that is classed as a dangerous dog, is it an image thing?
why not?
I personally want to own a Pit as I like the look of them. Im well past the stage of wanting to look hard so certainly not for that. Plus they are renowned for being well behaved, trainable dogs that are very loyal.
well said mate you get pikies with staffies rotties ect standing on the street corner thinking they are it you make the dog you want not what people think of it!
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ianofbhills
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not really the same is it.
if you own an illegal breed of dog (not rotties) that can be taken away from you by the police at anytime for being classed as a dangerous animal why put yourself through that trouble.
whats illegal about owning a turbo corsa.
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i have mine just by chance but i always wanted one anyway.they are one of the most clever breeds of dogs out there and are easy to train.plus you have the fact you dont need an alarm on your house
also any type of dog should not be destroyed because of what it is or what it has done it is the owners fault it is like it so why should the dog have to die??
[Edited on 23-01-2007 by sri power]
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baza31
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I agree you can train any dog except a pitt , you can train it to sit etc but they are bred for one reason.
The dogs are illegal for a start well Americans are , englishs need to be mussled and neauted.
Why dont they say mussle a poodle?
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Cosmo
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Originally posted by ianofbhills
not really the same is it.
if you own an illegal breed of dog (not rotties) that can be taken away from you by the police at anytime for being classed as a dangerous animal why put yourself through that trouble.
whats illegal about owning a turbo corsa.
yes, I follow you if you mean they could be taken away, etc etc.
But why would it get taken off me when it would rarely be outside the house to be seen. It would come out running with me, muzzled, and then live in the garden/house.
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why dont they mussel jack russels or terriers because you see a lot more of them snapping at people than any other dog
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Cosmo
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I agree you can train any dog except a pitt , you can train it to sit etc but they are bred for one reason.
you have no idea. Go and read round a few of the kennel club websites then come back and say they cant be trained.
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Cosmo
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why dont they mussel jack russels or terriers because you see a lot more of them snapping at people than any other dog
exactly. They are muzzled due to public demand because of the image they have been given by the media.
All the dogs I have been bitten by in my life have been little shits, they should be muzzled too!!
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the problem is any dog can turn, but Rottweilers and pittbulls can be seriously vicious and ruthless when they do turn, its in their genes
i have 3 cats yet they still have mental 5 minutes...every living thing can do serious damage if you piss it off...
if a member of your family was a murderer does that mean your a murderer just because uz are related...think about it!
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why dont they mussel jack russels or terriers because you see a lot more of them snapping at people than any other dog
exactly. They are muzzled due to public demand because of the image they have been given by the media.
All the dogs I have been bitten by in my life have been little shits, they should be muzzled too!!
yer but when a smaller dog snaps or bites a person it tends to cause less damage then a pit bull or 8 stone rottweiler would do.
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yer but when a smaller dog snaps or bites a person it tends to cause less damage then a pit bull or 8 stone rottweiler would do.
so by your theory all dgs over a certain size should be banned as if they do snap they cause more damage?
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am getting tired of this thread am leaving the conversation i know what i think of DOGS PEOPLE THINK ARE VISIOUS!
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Originally posted by dave..GSi
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Originally posted by KROOZUK-BEN
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Originally posted by ryzer
the problem is any dog can turn, but Rottweilers and pittbulls can be seriously vicious and ruthless when they do turn, its in their genes
i have 3 cats yet they still have mental 5 minutes...every living thing can do serious damage if you piss it off...
if a member of your family was a murderer does that mean your a murderer just because uz are related...think about it!
We are talking about dogs which are wild ....Not humans
I am 100% certain Pitts cant be fully domesticated , you may get half way there having thier nuts chopped off but it will never be .
Do these look safe?
does this dog look like it likes this kid?
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