fir3vip3r
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right
A phase 1 vtr would be very close but would just beat a 1.4 16v corsa.
A phase 2 vtr is dead level with a 1.6 sport 
a phase 1 would be level with a 1.6 sport as well ffs its only got 8BHP less 
10 bhp less, and ofcourse you would know.
i would know i used to own a saxo theres not a lot of difference between the two
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Carl
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is a phase 1 vtr slower than a phase 2? :S
yes about 10bhp down on the faelift ones.
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Steve X16XE
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How does the 1.6 sport do against a C2 VTS (don't start talking about the saxo!)
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Rob B
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i would know i used to own a saxo theres not a lot of difference between the two
Yes not alot of difference but still some. 
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Eck
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10bhp in a 350bhp two ton car wouldn't seem like much but 10bhp in an 88bhp car weight just over 900kg you will notice the difference
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Jon_C
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I know yours is a vts rob but how do you get on with yours havin owned corsas in the past. which have you prefered
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fir3vip3r
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10bhp in a 350bhp two ton car wouldn't seem like much but 10bhp in an 88bhp car weight just over 900kg you will notice the difference
90bhp im pretty sure drive them both you will barely notice a difference
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Carl
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How does the 1.6 sport do against a C2 VTS (don't start talking about the saxo!)
not sure but reckoning the c2 will be pretty much like the saxo vts, think about it, they are both citroen and the c2 is newer, if it hasn't got the same engine i doubt they would put something in that was not on par with the saxo as people with saxo's wouldn't want to upgrade their citroen kind of thing.
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Steve X16XE
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Ok, So it would leave the sport for dead?
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Dean B
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c2 vts is 125 bhp and weights more than the saxo VTS. Weights just over a tonne.
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Rob B
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I know yours is a vts rob but how do you get on with yours havin owned corsas in the past. which have you prefered
Erm tbh i dont know because ive only had it 2 and a half months and had the silver corsa 2 years with 2 differnt engines...
The saxo hasnt really put a foot wrong apart from when i first bought it but that was just a split in the inlet, since thats been replaced there hasnt been any problems at all touch wood..
Silver corsa when i bought it was only on 28k, didnt have any trouble with that for ages until things like rear drums locking up under braking etc but that was due to modifications.
I would say the inside of the corsa is nicer than the saxo by far but saxo dials are nicer.. i would again say i prefer corsa looks by far, but in terms of speed and handling i prefer the saxo .
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Steve
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the saxo being lighter the 10bhp difference will be reduced, bet theres hardly an difference on real world driving
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Carl
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Originally posted by Eckmcmann
10bhp in a 350bhp two ton car wouldn't seem like much but 10bhp in an 88bhp car weight just over 900kg you will notice the difference
90bhp im pretty sure drive them both you will barely notice a difference
the extra bit the phase 2 has makes quite alot of difference imo. as said in such a light car it helps.
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fir3vip3r
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the saxo being lighter the 10bhp difference will be reduced, bet theres hardly an difference on real world driving
thank you.
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Jon_C
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Makes sense rob. cheers for that
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Dean B
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Rob, why did you rear drums start to lock up? Mine have starting doing this!
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Rob B
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erm, it did it under braking, need to adjust the brake bias valve but even when i did that it still did it, proper scary stuff it was
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Steve X16XE
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My old corsa and my astra did/do that with the brakes, but my now corsa doesn't.
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Eck
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the saxo being lighter the 10bhp difference will be reduced, bet theres hardly an difference on real world driving
thank you.
Yes, in real world driving one second to 60 won't mean much difference. But the point here is the P2's extra 10bhp DOES make a difference.
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mwg
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Unless you want outright performance the Corsa is a nicer car.
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fir3vip3r
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the saxo being lighter the 10bhp difference will be reduced, bet theres hardly an difference on real world driving
thank you.
Yes, in real world driving one second to 60 won't mean much difference. But the point here is the P2's extra 10bhp DOES make a difference.
i am agreeing that the p2 is a bit different but that does not mean a
phase 2 will keep up with a 1.6 sport and a phase 1 wont as was previosuly stated earlier
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Jake
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I had a little play with a c2 vtr between roundabouts and it's dead level(standard 1.6)
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matt_aka_smiler
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I had a little play with a c2 vtr on a straight. it over took me so i over took him and he never caught me lol. but i do have a dbilas on my 1.6 sport. hasn't been remapped or anything though....yet
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Rob B
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sounds about right Matt, you should pull away from a c2 vtr .
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matt_aka_smiler
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i dont think he was that impressed when he saw me fly past! to be fair i just had a big grin! I see your from staffs Rob, do you ever go up fez at all?
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