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K2 GTi

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28th Jun 07 at 08:08

quote:
Originally posted by gunzi
you're judging from a standing start, how often do you race like that?

fromt a standing start, i pull about a car length ahead then i pull slightly... from rolling the 106 is even quicker.

gunzi

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28th Jun 07 at 08:09

^ From a X16XE inlet'd Nova?

Rob B

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28th Jun 07 at 08:09

your missing my point gunzi, from a rolling start, the 106 will be even quicker.

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28th Jun 07 at 08:10

sorry was talking about this 1.4..... from standing with the 1.6 your on about there won't be alot in it.. but rolling start the 106 will win

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28th Jun 07 at 08:11

i agree a highly tuned 1.4 might make similar bhp/ton at stupid revs but the power would be all over the place the rest of the rev range, let alone the torque, JR probably had the ultimate 1.4 and that was just about standard gti speed

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28th Jun 07 at 08:15

Your point Rob was that a (assuming the 130bhp) gti would be faster than a nova with a 1.6 inlet XE from a rolling start. Same power very different weight.

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28th Jun 07 at 08:20

Any threads/pics of said amazing 1.4?

Rob B

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28th Jun 07 at 08:20

yes as has been said, its the way it delivers the power, my vts powerband is like from 3.5k and it pulls to 7.6k and it pulls hard all the way through that rev range.

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28th Jun 07 at 08:28

So you are negating the 140kg weight deficit soley on the premise that the gti delivers the power better?! I'm sure a 1.6XE inlet has a great power & torque curve too, pulling from simliar revs to the limiter. I'd like to see a RR graph for a 16XE with inlet.

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28th Jun 07 at 08:33

gunzi you can chat all day long about power as much as you like, fact is in real life it doesnt count for that much, robs nova was exactly the setup your talking about yet that pulled a slower time up the strip than my standard 106

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28th Jun 07 at 08:36

quote:
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I'd like to see a RR graph for a 16XE with inlet.

Excuse the shitness.............Graphs of a 132BHP 1.6XE.

BHP

Torque

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28th Jun 07 at 09:00

From a standing start the 106 is clearly better which is what the 1/4 judges - this is not real life. From a rolling start I'd hand it to the nova easily. Down to the massive weight difference.

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28th Jun 07 at 09:08

quote:
Originally posted by danward
Any threads/pics of said amazing 1.4?

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28th Jun 07 at 09:14

Why does everyone get so hung up about how their 1.4/1.6 engine'd Corsa compares to a 106 GTi? If your that bothered about it then just buy a 106!

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28th Jun 07 at 09:14

Again gunzi, youd be very surprised how the Gti will perform, i think the car has proven its not just power to wieght, my old corsa was a x16xe with a dbilias inlet, viper, manifold and de-catted full system, rolling roaded at 123bhp, and my mates 106 gti with filter and exhaust still pulled away considerably easily from me.

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28th Jun 07 at 09:15

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Why does everyone get so hung up about how their 1.4/1.6 engine'd Corsa compares to a 106 GTi? If your that bothered about it then just buy a 106!

Because its the main competitor and people wont to know how they can get upto speed with it, i used to ask these questions 2 - 3 years ago

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28th Jun 07 at 09:15

Mine was 132, still couldn't do it.

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28th Jun 07 at 09:16

I bet it did, the corsa will probably have more weight (model dependant) and less power.... EDIT - to Rob

[Edited on 28-06-2007 by gunzi]

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28th Jun 07 at 09:24

quote:
Originally posted by Rob B

quote:
Originally posted by Matty G
Why does everyone get so hung up about how their 1.4/1.6 engine'd Corsa compares to a 106 GTi? If your that bothered about it then just buy a 106!

Because its the main competitor and people wont to know how they can get upto speed with it, i used to ask these questions 2 - 3 years ago .

Yeah I see that but surely the easiest way is just to buy a 106 GTi to start with

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28th Jun 07 at 09:42

quote:
Originally posted by Dean_W
Mine was 132, still couldn't do it.

mine neither.

Rob B

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28th Jun 07 at 09:43

well that seems to be the case with most.

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28th Jun 07 at 09:45

are you numpties still arguing about corsas vs saxos vs 106 gti's

arent people bored of these threads now, they are utter shit. never get anywhere and never will.

Rob B

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28th Jun 07 at 09:46

Look at the post title dave, its asking what needs to be done ?

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28th Jun 07 at 09:46

quote:
Originally posted by Dave A
are you numpties still arguing about corsas vs saxos vs 106 gti's

arent people bored of these threads now, they are utter shit. never get anywhere and never will.

dont open it then. simple.

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28th Jun 07 at 09:47

a corsa 1.4 will need a 1.6 16v saxo engine in, and still wouldnt keep up.

as a hot hatch, saxos / 106 are better all round than corsas. end of.

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