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Robbo
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13th Mar 08 at 19:09   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

02 is old now matey, isnt your dads an inital spec? ie before the 19s and before led rears etc?

They were still making 56 reg e46 m3's iirc!
deano87
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Originally posted by Robbo
02 is old now matey, isnt your dads an inital spec? ie before the 19s and before led rears etc?

They were still making 56 reg e46 m3's iirc!

No, it has 19's from factory. And has genuine BMW rear LED's fitted, which, are the only real change compared to the standard E46 Coupe's.

I know how the industry works and I know how Audi works. They actually got the price from a BMW dealership in Bedford.

Like I said, you live and learn. But I would also consider the price difference normal for a normal mileage, E46 330Ci or something. But this is an M3, so something slightly more special than your bogo standard BMW.
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True but factor in that there are a million and one (generally undesirable) silver m3s on the market... a market which is declining significantly atm

Agreed it is poo though
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why not just keep it if you/your dad think they are going to loose so much in trading/selling on. theres no win win in this game
deano87
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Originally posted by Damian_666
why not just keep it if you/your dad think they are going to loose so much in trading/selling on. theres no win win in this game

Running costs. It's like £1k insurance per year including tracker, tyres are expensive, fuel is expensive, repairs of any kind expensive, servicing etc.
mwg
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Doesn't suprise me. I didn't even bother asking how much they'd give me for my Corsa, knew I'd be better off selling privately to someone that wanted it.
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LOL @ this thread
aron
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some people love a good moan

it's a car, if you want a good investment, put your money into gold or something.
deano87
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it's a car, if you want a good investment, put your money into gold or something.

Funny you should say that. People are doing that because it's at $1000 per ounce at the moment, due to the dodgey stock markets.

Might try and persuade to get a 1.7 CDTI SRi Corsa C and £10k's worth of gold
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He should just stick it in the garage and leave it there and run a banger until he can afford to run it again. Or use the banger permanently and run the BMW as an occassional car.
Gregor
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This not beemer that's praises you always sing
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This not beemer that's praises you always sing

Yes.

All the more reason why dad doesn't want to get rid. He could afford to run it, but there is more to life than insurance, petrol and what no.

SVM 286 - then it'd be worth even less
Colin
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Sounds like he doesnt really do much mileage anyway. If owned from new 5k a year? Is he really going to benifit from buying a Diesel? Doubt hes really going to save much, if he enjoys the M3 he should just keep it.
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The Audi was just an example - but he is self employed/bricklaying sub-contractor, so there are benefits of the diesel.

No, he hasn't owned from new. 3 years this year.
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Originally posted by deano87
quote:
Originally posted by Gregor
This not beemer that's praises you always sing

Yes.

All the more reason why dad doesn't want to get rid. He could afford to run it, but there is more to life than insurance, petrol and what no.

SVM 286 - then it'd be worth even less


Not to him it wouldn't.
SVM 286
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Deano, Transit for work and shopping and everything else. M3 for the weekend.
Jambo
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Condition means little in a cars value and IMO so does mileage. So long as condition isnt fucked and it hasnt been to the moon and back twice its pureply based on what year the car is in my experience.

and just cos u put a private plate and some late spec rear lights on it doesnt make it as desireble as an 04 plate car
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Originally posted by SVM 286
Deano, Transit for work and shopping and everything else. M3 for the weekend.

That's precisely dad's point. He doesn't want to keep paying out silly money for the M3 for it not to be used. Getting an A3 is still a quality car, but the insurance is like £300/year and it'll have warranty remaining.

He/we aren't out'n'out petrol heads. We're mountain biking junkies instead
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an a3 is not a quality car deano, i'll explain on sat when i see you
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Originally posted by Jambo
Condition means little in a cars value and IMO so does mileage. So long as condition isnt fucked and it hasnt been to the moon and back twice its pureply based on what year the car is in my experience.

and just cos u put a private plate and some late spec rear lights on it doesnt make it as desireble as an 04 plate car

It would to a private buyer though, imho. To a garage, probably not. A more up to date looking M3 is going to be easier to sell than say, a 2001 Y-plate. This is just before facelift spec, but looks like a facelift.
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jr
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ahhh matty, i hoped you wouldnt see this post
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quote:
Originally posted by deano87
The Audi was just an example - but he is self employed/bricklaying sub-contractor, so there are benefits of the diesel.

No, he hasn't owned from new. 3 years this year.


Cant be doing that many miles tho if the M3's only got 30k. Its all good running a derv but if your only doing a few k's a year you wont really see a considerable saving. £20 a month on fuel possibly!
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Originally posted by Colin
Cant be doing that many miles tho if the M3's only got 30k. Its all good running a derv but if your only doing a few k's a year you wont really see a considerable saving. £20 a month on fuel possibly!

Will let him know
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Originally posted by jr
ahhh matty, i hoped you wouldnt see this post


its ok

in its class I would say its the best of the lot as long as you dont mind paying a premium for it

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