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16V_1600
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26th Mar 08 at 23:03   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
I already searched the threads and I just thought I'd post this up as the previous threads were a bit old so thought I'll see if opinions have changed and it seems that it's 50/50 C20/X16

I fancy the power of the XE, but fancy the lightness and tuneability of the X16 combined. I've had a few ideas off jr for the tuning of the X16 (cheers mate :thumbs and I wanna do that. but then I think for the money to tune the 1.6, I could have a C20 dropped in. So damn hard lol

[Edited on 26-03-2008 by 16V_1600]
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26th Mar 08 at 23:26   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
Tbh I have been out in a c20xe corsa and I my self own a Tb'd 1.6 sport, Im also building a c20xe gsi corsa, at the end of the day it what you want the car to do. My 1.6 on Tb's is my every day car, the c20xe will be my track car. the 1.6 will humiliate allot of things on the road, purely down to acceleration and handlerling ( gaz coil overs) the 2.0 was our choice because its cheap and fast fun at the end of the day for a track car.
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quote:
Originally posted by Linch
Tbh I have been out in a c20xe corsa and I my self own a Tb'd 1.6 sport, Im also building a c20xe gsi corsa, at the end of the day it what you want the car to do. My 1.6 on Tb's is my every day car, the c20xe will be my track car. the 1.6 will humiliate allot of things on the road, purely down to acceleration and handlerling ( gaz coil overs) the 2.0 was our choice because its cheap and fast fun at the end of the day for a track car.


linch drop me a c20xe in bud
Mark.W
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26th Mar 08 at 23:43   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
whats the mpg like ina c20xe and a 1.6 TB corsa?
Rob R
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quote:
Originally posted by warren.g
get a LER


Prefer an LEH
sand-eel
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26th Mar 08 at 23:51   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
a 1.6 TB will guzzle the fuel
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27th Mar 08 at 00:18   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by wooly101uk
whats the mpg like ina c20xe and a 1.6 TB corsa?


Warren.g's tb'd 1.6 isn't too great judging by his thread the other day

Wonder what a tb'd c20's like on fuel I'm still gonna do it tho I'll be proud if I can get lower than my dad's 17mpg
little_duke
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27th Mar 08 at 00:19   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
i got a x16xe and raced my mates c20xe from some lights.he was 3 up and i was on my own.kept with him till end of 3rd then he gripped
Vaux Lad
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27th Mar 08 at 00:38   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
In a light car, tuned 1600's are fun, very fun.
Ant
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27th Mar 08 at 09:28   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
a light car with a tunned tb'd c20xe could also be fun, its horses for courses bhp per cc the 1.6 does seem to do very well when tuned however that extra 400cc is an easy way of getting good usable power
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27th Mar 08 at 10:33   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
1600 every time for me.

but corsas with XE conversions are great fun when done well.

Or just buy something quick as standard
Steve X16XE
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27th Mar 08 at 10:46   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
Where's this 40kg's in weight difference come from?

Me and my mate lifted Monster's X16XE engine fairly easy on to some tyres then onto an engine stand.

2 of us didn't stand a chance moving my mates C20XE.

There feels like there is a lot more than 40kg's difference.
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quote:
Originally posted by Whittie
Owned both.

Xe EVERYtime hands down.


yup

fcuk small engines, its 2.0+ from now on
Fro
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27th Mar 08 at 11:13   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
Also owned both. (converted my 1.6 into a 2.0) and loved every second of it.

You do notice it being heavier at the front but the smiles when you floor it soon make you forget
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27th Mar 08 at 11:14   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
also remember 20XE owners have bigger willies.
Steve X16XE
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27th Mar 08 at 11:15   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
Or making up for something they haven't got

[Edited on 27-03-2008 by Steve X16XE]
Alex16v
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27th Mar 08 at 11:22   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
I have had both. Tuned 1.6 and standard 2.0.

c20xe wins hands down everytime.

want another one.

[Edited on 27-03-2008 by Alex16v]
Steve X16XE
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What had you done to the 1.6?
Superlite Ltd.
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quote:
Originally posted by Steve X16XE
What had you done to the 1.6?


c16xe
4 branch manifold and system
inlet manifold

my old one. Still nothing compared to the torque of a 2.0
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quote:
Originally posted by Steve X16XE
Or making up for something they haven't got

[Edited on 27-03-2008 by Steve X16XE]


an engine missing 400cc?
Steve X16XE
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27th Mar 08 at 12:00   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
So it might have had 125 bhp and 115 lbft.

What's the torque of the C20XE engine? I know the book says 156bhp but what are they really doing on the rollers?
Steve X16XE
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quote:
Originally posted by willay
quote:
Originally posted by Steve X16XE
Or making up for something they haven't got

[Edited on 27-03-2008 by Steve X16XE]


an engine missing 400cc?


Just 1 cylinder short...... hmmm, 5 cylinder 2.0L
Superlite Ltd.
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forget peak power

a modified smallblock with 150bhp will be shite under 3k
Steve X16XE
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Not what i asked........ And if it's set up correctly it won't be.

The last time you went out for a sprited drive, how many times did you drive with the reves under 3k?
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quote:
Originally posted by Superlite Ltd.
forget peak power

a modified smallblock with 150bhp will be shite under 3k



anything thats not a Tdi or a big n/a V6 or similar will be shite under 3k tbh.

[Edited on 27-03-2008 by Dave A]

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