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mwg
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17th Apr 08 at 12:05   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

We (the motorist) are getting royally butt fucked at the moment. Fuel prices soaring, road tax has gone up dramatically for anyone that dares to buy a powerful car, talk of congestion charges spreading to other UK cities... but what can we do about it apart from bend over and take it!
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Originally posted by Robbo
Thats assuming that 24/7 you need to keep to below a certain speed

As said in the article, this type of thing will make you stick to limits in the dead of night with not a soul around

Its unnescessary and targettign motorists instea dof actual criminals

On the M60 on my way to work there's a long sweeping blind right turn. It has ALWAYS been posted as 50mph limit, but people used to just fly round there, me included.

One time in the "dead of night with not a soul around" one guy was blasting it round. Little did he know that 4 kids had crashed just round the bend and got out their car. He plowed the lot of them down and killed them.

There's now 50mph average cameras there. Justified?

Dead of the night or not, the hazards remain the same.
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Polish plates FTW.
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I agree with them on accident black spots etc but "virtually every road in Britain"

Just a money making scam. be too expensive to drive before long.
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Originally posted by loafofbrett
quote:
Originally posted by Robbo
Thats assuming that 24/7 you need to keep to below a certain speed

As said in the article, this type of thing will make you stick to limits in the dead of night with not a soul around

Its unnescessary and targettign motorists instea dof actual criminals

On the M60 on my way to work there's a long sweeping blind right turn. It has ALWAYS been posted as 50mph limit, but people used to just fly round there, me included.

One time in the "dead of night with not a soul around" one guy was blasting it round. Little did he know that 4 kids had crashed just round the bend and got out their car. He plowed the lot of them down and killed them.

There's now 50mph average cameras there. Justified?

Dead of the night or not, the hazards remain the same.
Justified indeed

However, again, the suggestion here is full rollout, not in hazardous areas where Im sure most poeple would agree they nwork 10x better than gatsos/specs/truvlos etc
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as soon as anyone kicks up a fuss about the plans the government will only try and claim it will help stop terrorism.
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anybody fancy finding out gordon brown and his wifes number plates and getting them mass produced for when these pop up everywhere
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quote:
Originally posted by Robbo

They already have these as you drive into Nottingham from the M1 IIRC


yeah,seen them yesterday on my way home
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If this happens I will move out of this country. Or do what someone did under the M4 - cut the singal wires for the cmaeras with some hedging sheers
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They have them on the woodhead pass from Sheffield to Manchester.
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They have them at most roadworks, and I agree with them there.

I do not agree with them on the open road!
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so glad i do hardly any motorway/out of town driving, stick to country roads
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Originally posted by P1CK4D
"Thirty-four cameras have apparently been installed and are being tested on a five-mile stretch of the A13 in east London from Canning Town to the Gorsebrook interchange." Bollocks. Thats exactly where I live I drive down that road all the time


Same not had nothing yet
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I couldn't see them lasting long here

Cut wires or sprayed in to
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quote:
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I couldn't see them lasting long here

Cut wires or sprayed in to


sounds a nice area
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quote:
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quote:
Originally posted by lil_g
I couldn't see them lasting long here

Cut wires or sprayed in to


sounds a nice area


It is....

My insurance reflects this too

[Edited on 17-04-2008 by lil_g]
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mine to g....L37...... i live in a nice area but its classed as liverpool,dammit
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Originally posted by loafofbrett
TBH they're quite justified. They're put in accident hot spots. How can you argue with that?


it wont stop accidents because as soon as you got above 70 you dont suddenly explode into a forrey of accidents. Its utter bollocks.

People will be driving down there eyes glued on the speedo and not on the road and obstacles around them therefore not driving safely.

TBH i dont know how people without cruise control survive
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Originally posted by mk4_astra
34 cameras in 5 miles


Bloody hell, that works out at 1 camera every 236m (potentially although there probably mounted 3 per gantry).

quote:
Originally posted by Dave A
as soon as anyone kicks up a fuss about the plans the government will only try and claim it will help stop terrorism.


Yeah that sounds familiar, government did the same sorta thing when they banned guns. Claimed that banning the private ownership of a fire arm would lead to a decrease in gun crime. Did it? . . . Like hell did it

[Edited on 17-04-2008 by neil h]
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Originally posted by 16V_1600
I agree with them on accident black spots etc but "virtually every road in Britain"

Just a money making scam. be too expensive to drive before long.



if the government inproved public transport i wouldnt even mind using it.
but fuck getting the bus/train if i can drive.
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quote:
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quote:
Originally posted by loafofbrett
TBH they're quite justified. They're put in accident hot spots. How can you argue with that?


it wont stop accidents because as soon as you got above 70 you dont suddenly explode into a forrey of accidents. Its utter bollocks.

People will be driving down there eyes glued on the speedo and not on the road and obstacles around them therefore not driving safely.

TBH i dont know how people without cruise control survive


The amount of motorway miles I do -iots hard, very hard.
Haimsey
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May already have been said, but are these not similar to the ones where if you change lane then it isnt able to measure anymore?


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Thats bollocks Marc, that doesnt work
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Oh
Wouldnt affect me anyways, i dont speed Deano


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