Rob B
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quote: Originally posted by Fonz
quote: Originally posted by deano87
quote: Originally posted by Rob B
You do need to rev to the limiter, so your at optimum rev's in the next gear..
Totally depends what car.
12v has red line of 6krpm, power dips massively at about 4.5krpm - 5krpm. Going all the way to 6krpm wouldn't make good times.
I'm sure Fonz will back me up
he speaks the truth!
mine after RR had peak power at 4250rev/min
dropping dramatically after 5k to the line at 6k
i'd suggest dump the clutch at 3500, my fastest run was my first after i started with higher revs, lots of wheels spin (or so i thought) but all other runs were slower with less revs and spin - must have been some good in all that spinning!!
But if you change at 4.2k then your way off peak power in the next gear ?
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Fonz
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well yes but the peak torque was at 3250-3500 iirc and i didnt say the change should be at 4250, id change 5-5.25k
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Superlite Ltd.
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quote: Originally posted by deano87
Totally depends what car.
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Corsa_Sport21
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Remember tho,if ur under inflating ur tyres,take an air compressor or foot pump with u too pump them back up.
Also if its possible b4 the day,raise the rear of the car and slam the front for a quicker time with less wheel spin.
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Mobby
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quote: Originally posted by Corsa_Sport21
Remember tho,if ur under inflating ur tyres,take an air compressor or foot pump with u too pump them back up.
Also if its possible b4 the day,raise the rear of the car and slam the front for a quicker time with less wheel spin.
sounds like mint advice
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deano87
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quote: Originally posted by Corsa_Sport21
Remember tho,if ur under inflating ur tyres,take an air compressor or foot pump with u too pump them back up.
Also if its possible b4 the day,raise the rear of the car and slam the front for a quicker time with less wheel spin.
It's a 106 GTi, not a V10 hot rod with 1000bhp.
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myke
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hot rod wouldn't stand a chance though
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deano87
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true.
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SteveW
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watch fast and furious about 10times then you shall be ready
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Superlite Ltd.
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quote: Originally posted by deano87
quote: Originally posted by Corsa_Sport21
Remember tho,if ur under inflating ur tyres,take an air compressor or foot pump with u too pump them back up.
Also if its possible b4 the day,raise the rear of the car and slam the front for a quicker time with less wheel spin.
It's a 106 GTi, not a V10 hot rod with 1000bhp.
V8 is far better for drag racing. Fact
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Corsa_Sport21
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quote: Originally posted by deano87
quote: Originally posted by Corsa_Sport21
Remember tho,if ur under inflating ur tyres,take an air compressor or foot pump with u too pump them back up.
Also if its possible b4 the day,raise the rear of the car and slam the front for a quicker time with less wheel spin.
It's a 106 GTi, not a V10 hot rod with 1000bhp.
Well if thats the case then why the fuk is he on CS asking for advice????????????
Unless hes got a cpl o grand too spend hes no gonna be knocking a few seconds off anyway.So combine all that advice hes been given and im sure itl be worth while.
And FYI the advice i gave him implies to any car with a good bhp per ton ratio and lets face it hes gonna get a bit wheelspin,what i said will reduce it.
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Eck
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quote: Originally posted by deano87
quote: Originally posted by Corsa_Sport21
Remember tho,if ur under inflating ur tyres,take an air compressor or foot pump with u too pump them back up.
Also if its possible b4 the day,raise the rear of the car and slam the front for a quicker time with less wheel spin.
It's a 106 GTi, not a V10 hot rod with 1000bhp.
What difference does that make? The advice on the tyres is handy for getting home, and GTi's are pretty liable to wheelspin if you just sidestep the clutch at full revs
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deano87
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quote: Originally posted by Eck
What difference does that make? The advice on the tyres is handy for getting home, and GTi's are pretty liable to wheelspin if you just sidestep the clutch at full revs
He said raise the rear and lower the front. Sounded like he meant on the suspension, i.e. how a hotrod looks, or with bigger wheels/tyres. Not tyre pressure.
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Eck
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Nah what he meant was raise the back of it for when launching. A few folk do that, one being Nik (Muppetsport). Not sure what it would do for a GTi which is obviously nowhere near as quick, but it can't do harm!
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willay
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Remember when you put the car in reverse to line it up cause you've gone over the line, take it out of reverse and put it into first.
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Corsa_Sport21
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quote: Originally posted by deano87
quote: Originally posted by Eck
What difference does that make? The advice on the tyres is handy for getting home, and GTi's are pretty liable to wheelspin if you just sidestep the clutch at full revs
He said raise the rear and lower the front. Sounded like he meant on the suspension, i.e. how a hotrod looks, or with bigger wheels/tyres. Not tyre pressure.
That is what i meant.
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deano87
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quote: Originally posted by Corsa_Sport21
quote: Originally posted by deano87
quote: Originally posted by Eck
What difference does that make? The advice on the tyres is handy for getting home, and GTi's are pretty liable to wheelspin if you just sidestep the clutch at full revs
He said raise the rear and lower the front. Sounded like he meant on the suspension, i.e. how a hotrod looks, or with bigger wheels/tyres. Not tyre pressure.
That is what i meant.
Physically raise, or tyre pressure?
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Corsa_Sport21
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Physically or manually raise the torsion bar,whatever works best.
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deano87
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Can't see it making much difference on a 106 GTi. Then again, I have no mechanical, engineering or physics knowledge
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Superlite Ltd.
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quote: Originally posted by deano87
Can't see it making much difference on a 106 GTi. Then again, I have no mechanical, engineering or physics knowledge
fair play, hes right deano it would help. But im pretty sure under inflating your tyres is only done if you have over a certain bhp. Below that your better off with high psi.
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deano87
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High psi in 12v ftw.
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Corsa_Sport21
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It will help any car that has enough power to spin the wheels in at least 1st gear.
Also reducing tyre pressure would work in the same way.The quicker the tyres get hot,the more the will inflate themselves.
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deano87
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I can do wheel spins in 12v
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Corsa_Sport21
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What revs are u holding it at to get a 12v to wheelspin??Silly revs??
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Superlite Ltd.
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quote: Originally posted by Corsa_Sport21
It will help any car that has enough power to spin the wheels in at least 1st gear.
Also reducing tyre pressure would work in the same way.The quicker the tyres get hot,the more the will inflate themselves.
Your not going to get the tyres hot with a 106 though
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