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Robin
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5th Nov 08 at 12:42   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
Fluid is drained out. It's completely different to driving the car with no fluid in because the pump isn't trying to do anything.
Kevxx
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5th Nov 08 at 12:44   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
I'm currently running a dry rack with the hoses attached and capped at the end, cause i've not had a chance to remove the hoses yet, but i just removed the pump basically.

Next sat i'm rebuilding the whole car, so i'll make a wee project thread then, and i'll remove them then, but from my expierance, it's just fine, even parking and im not a big lad!!!
Doldy
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5th Nov 08 at 12:46   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
What FTG size will those bungs be mark? And how many will i need, cant remember off top of my head.

Also do they just push in,....

And one other thing, why is there a need to bung the holes?
broster
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5th Nov 08 at 12:49   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
you bung it to stop chime going in.

i have the correct sizes on order as its not the first time i have done this modification, nor will it be the last, hence i tend to keep these caps in stock.

if you want them from me let me know
Doldy
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5th Nov 08 at 12:56   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
So, what size are they? Just out of interest as my dad has loads of steel bungs at work and if i can use them i will.
Robin
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5th Nov 08 at 12:58   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
They're not a bung, they're a screw on fitting which I'd imagine it's unlikely someone would have laying around.
DaveyLC
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5th Nov 08 at 13:02   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
Seriously just get a EPAS rack.. save all this tossing around
Robin
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5th Nov 08 at 13:03   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
EPAS rack is less hassle?
Doldy
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Jeesus just tell me the damn FTG size lol!

DaveyLC - Its not that simple is it?
Just get an epas rack, wack it on, done....?
Kevxx
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quote:
Originally posted by Robin
EPAS rack is less hassle?


exactly what i was thinking!

and has anyone got Epas to turn round and say it's great? like i say i've seen one or two threads, but not many folk have said its the best!
Ojc
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5th Nov 08 at 13:05   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
But you don't need to do anything to the car apart from remove the PAS pump, if you wanted EPS you have to change the rack and the columm.
DaveB
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5th Nov 08 at 13:08   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Kevxx
quote:
Originally posted by Robin
EPAS rack is less hassle?


exactly what i was thinking!

and has anyone got Epas to turn round and say it's great? like i say i've seen one or two threads, but not many folk have said its the best!


EPASS is the best. It's awesome. Yes I have it.
Kevxx
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5th Nov 08 at 13:10   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
post pics and stuff then please!

tell us how it's done with good detail..
DaveB
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5th Nov 08 at 13:11   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
Ask vauxhall. Factory fitted EPAS FTW
Kevxx
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5th Nov 08 at 13:12   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
ahhh such an easy job to do then eh

and if it's in your xe, bet vauxhall had fun doing it themselves!

[Edited on 05-11-2008 by Kevxx]
DaveyLC
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quote:
Originally posted by Ojc
But you don't need to do anything to the car apart from remove the PAS pump, if you wanted EPS you have to change the rack and the columm.


I'm talking about just using the 2.7 turn rack that comes on the EPAS setup.. Its just a NORMAL manual rack that happens to be 2.7 turns lock-to-lock.. No need to fit the power column or any of that jazz and voila you have a quick rack for peanuts.
DaveyLC
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quote:
Originally posted by Kevxx
ahhh such an easy job to do then eh


See my How-to post
Dan
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5th Nov 08 at 13:26   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
dan, get ure old pipes, cut them to about 5cm, and bend them over.

Job done

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broster
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5th Nov 08 at 13:29   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by DaveyLC
quote:
Originally posted by Ojc
But you don't need to do anything to the car apart from remove the PAS pump, if you wanted EPS you have to change the rack and the columm.


I'm talking about just using the 2.7 turn rack that comes on the EPAS setup.. Its just a NORMAL manual rack that happens to be 2.7 turns lock-to-lock.. No need to fit the power column or any of that jazz and voila you have a quick rack for peanuts.


totally agree, however only reason i would do this was if there was already a PAS rack and coloum fitted, just remove all the pas gubbins, job done.

again with dans comment just there, bend the old pipes to blank it off, yes no reason why not, only reason i got the bungs is they are cheap, and people sometimes like things to look good, i spend £100's and £100's on aluminium fittings for my fuel lines etc, so i wasnt going to have two bent bits of pipe blanking the rack off. wanted it all to look good.
Dan
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5th Nov 08 at 13:32   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
I know what ya saying broster, but surely u cant see them once engine in

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broster
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5th Nov 08 at 13:35   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
you can on mine, on a 2ltr you wouldn't see them unless you looked.

Im also someone who likes to know its done properly, it would bug me that it was only done wit a bent bit of pipe.
DaveyLC
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quote:
Originally posted by broster

again with dans comment just there, bend the old pipes to blank it off, yes no reason why not, only reason i got the bungs is they are cheap, and people sometimes like things to look good, i spend £100's and £100's on aluminium fittings for my fuel lines etc, so i wasnt going to have two bent bits of pipe blanking the rack off. wanted it all to look good.


I know what you are saying, no point spending £10 on some fancy blue bits of ally.

I'm not 100% if this is true but I'm told the 2.7 turn fluid PAS rack (without fluid assist) is heavier than the standard manual rack, which is why it sort of makes sense and its such a small amount of money
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5th Nov 08 at 13:41   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by broster
you can on mine, on a 2ltr you wouldn't see them unless you looked.

Im also someone who likes to know its done properly, it would bug me that it was only done wit a bent bit of pipe.


All its doing is stopping the dust, its not holding the car together.

Each to ther own, but even i wouldnt bother with them caps tbh

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broster
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quote:
Originally posted by DaveyLC


I'm not 100% if this is true but I'm told the 2.7 turn fluid PAS rack (without fluid assist) is heavier than the standard manual rack, which is why it sort of makes sense and its such a small amount of money


have driven a few corsa's and my blanked off pas rack isnt any heavyer IMO!
Doldy
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5th Nov 08 at 18:20   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
http://www.earls.co.uk/earls/adapters/adapters.html#capsandplugs

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