thegsi
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Interesting choice. Best of luck with the conversion mate.
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Robin
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quote:
Originally posted by ShEp
The xe1 is a big block five stud  with 113bhp
The older 1800's are small block, and have 130bhp
[Edited on 06-01-2009 by ShEp]
other way round with the block size. the XE1 is a smallblock.
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Wrighty
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oh dear 
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Jambo
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nice one Mobby. Get it cleaned up before you drop it in 
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Ojc
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quote:
Originally posted by Robin
quote:
Originally posted by ShEp
The xe1 is a big block five stud with 113bhp
The older 1800's are small block, and have 130bhp
[Edited on 06-01-2009 by ShEp]
other way round with the block size. the XE1 is a smallblock.
Damm you Robin I was sat here like a dirty Keano waiting to post "urr miss miss he got it wrong" and you beat me to it 
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ShEp
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I was always told the 5 studders were big block
Oh well.
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Mobby
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quote:
Originally posted by ShEp
The xe1 is a big block five stud with 113bhp
The older 1800's are small block, and have 130bhp
[Edited on 06-01-2009 by ShEp]
 the older x18xe's are big block dunno what stud and the x18xe1's are small block and the newer of the pair and are 5 stud
EDIT: didn't see second page
[Edited on 06-01-2009 by mobby]
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DaveyLC
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quote:
Originally posted by dean101287
quote:
Originally posted by Nic Barnes
how much more power is an 1800 16v compared to the x16xe?
about an extra 10 I think. maybe more. the z18xe has 125 iirc.
When I first fitted my X18XE1 I took it to TOTD with CorsaSport, It was Just under 116bhp but it was 135lb/ft of torque.. In near enough standard form it was on-par with XE'd corsa's.. You've got to remember BHP isnt everything! The lack of power is offset by the massive weight saving, the extra torque and its ability to rev a HELL of alot faster than an XE.
There are several Z18XE turbo Corsa C's running well over 200bhp on standard internals so that is my next step
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DaveyLC
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Oh and lets not forget the head design on the X18XE1 makes the earlier small blocks and the 2.0 XE look like they were fashioned from flint by monkeys.
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gazza808
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quote:
Originally posted by DaveyLC
Oh and lets not forget the head design on the X18XE1 makes the earlier small blocks and the 2.0 XE look like they were fashioned from flint by monkeys.
agree
just look at the inlet ports much bigger than c20xe's
cant wait to get mine in on bodies though
1.8 small blocks may become the new conversion.
so many people getting them now.
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DaveyLC
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I'm sure the popularity is going to grow.. I shall continue to be an ambassador for the big CC small block even though people without a clue always stick their nose up at them
I'm DEFINITELY going to upgrade to Simtec90 + drive-by-wire management though.
[Edited on 07-01-2009 by DaveyLC]
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gez bay
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Registered: 14th Feb 08
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i think its hell of an engine to start with, good luck mobby...keep us posted 
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pow
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Location: Hazlemere, Buckinghamshire
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I want one
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DaveyLC
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Get loom building Mr Mobby!! Want to see it in the car before spring! 
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spikedjack
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quote:
Originally posted by mobby
quote:
Originally posted by JonnyJ
Just out of interest Mobby, how come you have gone for this engine?
fits on my gearbox
cheaper in the longrun
60k miles
smallblock engine
should use less petrol than a c20xe
should use less petrol than a c20xe
depends on if you tune it,.... i can whole heartedly say once they've been tatted with they suck on fuel.
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pow
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quote:
Originally posted by DaveyLC
Get loom building Mr Mobby!! Want to see it in the car before spring!
Is making the loom the most/a difficult job?
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Nic Barnes
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quote:
Originally posted by DaveyLC
When I first fitted my X18XE1 I took it to TOTD with CorsaSport, It was Just under 116bhp but it was 135lb/ft of torque.. In near enough standard form it was on-par with XE'd corsa's.. You've got to remember BHP isnt everything! The lack of power is offset by the massive weight saving, the extra torque and its ability to rev a HELL of alot faster than an XE.
but an xe has more torque and more power, and the weight saving just wont make up for that. i cant see how its on par with an xe corsa at all
bhp isnt everything, bhp/tonne and torque is, which the 1800 16v doesnt have at all
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DaveyLC
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Just like everyone else you are MORE than welcome to take the car for a drive if you are ever at a local meet/show
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Nic Barnes
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im not knocking it, im just saying i dont see how it can be on par, unless it was an absolute dog of an xe.
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pow
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Davey, I'd love to take you up on that offer...
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spikedjack
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i thought the x18xe1 was pretty much identical to the z18xe but cable operated throttle as aposed to FBW?
i was always under the mpression it was a smallblock too?
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DaveyLC
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The power delivery, torque curve etc. is TOTALLY different to the XE and is much better suited to the Corsa.. You really got to have a drive to under-stand.
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Mobby
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quote:
Originally posted by pow
quote:
Originally posted by DaveyLC
Get loom building Mr Mobby!! Want to see it in the car before spring!
Is making the loom the most/a difficult job?
not that hard, it says how to on daveylc's thread. and trust me it will be in before spring!! im looking to be driving it around 1st-2nd week of febuary
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DaveyLC
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I'm might take my loom section out at some point and take some photos, do a proper pin out list etc.
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Mobby
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i cut mine where it joins the carloom well [ast the pump relay. this ok?
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