Daimo B
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So the VTS was doing 142mph....?
Somehow, i can't see that?
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FruitBooTeR
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A vts with decent mods could do 140 quite easy
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DannyB
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My old 8v xsi used to go off the clock at 140, wasnt standard though.
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DAZ1985
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Originally posted by dan-sport at the end of the day even if the corsa is abit slower i know which 1 i would want to be in if theirs a crash
French cars monkey metal etc ......... I get the drift
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Daimo B
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IOm not basing top speed on "speedo" speeds 
Im basing it on what the F20 does at the 6800rpm limiter
I'd trust a speedo like a prostitue from Nigeria with a computer and email address.
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DAZ1985
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Originally posted by DannyB My old 8v xsi used to go off the clock at 140, wasnt standard though.
So an xsi with a 16v in it must be fun.iirc thier even more of a bean can compared too s2 GTI so i have a good feeling i wont get owned by a redtop. Whats a redtop weigh? 1050kg?
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Paul_J
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Personally, in my opinion
Standard 106 gti will get beaten by a Corsa XE
a 106 gti with light mods (exhaust + filter, which to be honest most XE Corsa's have too) - Will be pretty even with a Corsa XE, probably slightly quicker over 1/4 mile but slower once rolling past 70 mph.
a 106 gti with proper cams etc running a true 155-160 bhp, will beat a Corsa XE. In theory beat it by 1/2 a sec or so on 1/4 mile and probably keep pace all the way to redline / if not pull away.
The biggest problem with these talks is that every gti engine / driver is different - same as every XE engine / driver is different.
I've seen some XE corsa's do high 15's on 1/4 mile, some do mid 15's, some do low 15's and some break into 14s.
On the flip side, my Gti standard did 16.1 1/4 mile. With 'light breathing mods' my best was 15.2/15.3 1/4 mile.
and with cams etc it was doing 14.8 (but I was granny shifting, due to being scared I was going to kill the gear box).
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Kevxx
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my standard xe did 15's low end, with all my seats/stereo/spare wheel, the fucking lot 
And every 106/vts i've been againest at 1/4 mile has been in my back window!
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Paul_J
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Originally posted by Kevxx
my standard xe did 15's low end, with all my seats/stereo/spare wheel, the fucking lot
And every 106/vts i've been againest at 1/4 mile has been in my back window!
See above... it's all swings and round abouts.
My gti with breathing mods would of been even / beaten you over the 1/4.
You say 'standard XE'. but there aren't any 'standard' XE's, they must at least all have breathing mods, i.e. exhaust + filter surely?
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DAZ1985
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This could be fun then
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DannyB
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I know which one I'd rather have anyway 
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Kevxx
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Originally posted by Paul_J
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Originally posted by Kevxx
my standard xe did 15's low end, with all my seats/stereo/spare wheel, the fucking lot
And every 106/vts i've been againest at 1/4 mile has been in my back window!
See above... it's all swings and round abouts.
My gti with breathing mods would of been even / beaten you over the 1/4.
You say 'standard XE'. but there aren't any 'standard' XE's, they must at least all have breathing mods, i.e. exhaust + filter surely?
standard 4-2-1 and a system + k&n are hardly breathing mod's
breathing mods to me are uprated exhaust manifold and inlet!
im yet to see a gti pull low 15's or less with just filter and exhaust ..sorry!
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Ryan
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redtops are overrated
gti is a farrrrrrr better car
END
imo....(and daz's)
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DAZ1985
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well said ryan 
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Paul_J
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Originally posted by Kevxx
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Originally posted by Paul_J
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Originally posted by Kevxx
my standard xe did 15's low end, with all my seats/stereo/spare wheel, the fucking lot
And every 106/vts i've been againest at 1/4 mile has been in my back window!
See above... it's all swings and round abouts.
My gti with breathing mods would of been even / beaten you over the 1/4.
You say 'standard XE'. but there aren't any 'standard' XE's, they must at least all have breathing mods, i.e. exhaust + filter surely?
standard 4-2-1 and a system + k&n are hardly breathing mod's
breathing mods to me are uprated exhaust manifold and inlet!
im yet to see a gti pull low 15's or less with just filter and exhaust ..sorry!
eh? not quite I catch your drift. 'exhaust and filter' are what I call breathing mods. Not inlet etc. So I'm saying Gti's with exhaust and filter only will do low 15's.
Anyway back to facts. This is what my car made with just a exhaust (pugsport) - no change to manifold at this point and filter (just removed air box and filter plonked on).
and with that my car DID do 15.2 1/4 mile (I can go hunt down the santa pod slip if you wish)
Fact.
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Paul_J
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Originally posted by DAZ1985
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Originally posted by DannyB My old 8v xsi used to go off the clock at 140, wasnt standard though.
So an xsi with a 16v in it must be fun.iirc thier even more of a bean can compared too s2 GTI so i have a good feeling i wont get owned by a redtop. Whats a redtop weigh? 1050kg?
I've seen a stripped s1 xsi with 16v with 'breathing mods' (pugsport and filter) do mid 14's. think it was 14.4 or 14.5.
I think you can get the xsi down to 800kg ish easy 
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Jenko_Sport
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My Xe was quicker than most of the vts/gti's around here.
Not alot in it under about 60-70 but then the extra torque the xe's have shows and then you start edging away.
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DAZ1985
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Would be interesting to see if weight gives an edge.
Just been out in my xsi, even though its not quite finished and it dont go bad, need to compare though really
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Nic Barnes
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my old std xe did a 14.6 1/4 mile. 3rd gear and i was away from every 106 or saxo i raced around here. some of the 106's can beat my corsa turbo to 60 some of the time.
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DAZ1985
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and after 60 once the rubber has grip on the tarmac its game over
I'll be willing to try my luck against all the redtops round hear, they all talk shit claiming 180 brake through chips and 100 extra cc. on standard inlet etc etc etc
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Nic Barnes
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Originally posted by DAZ1985
and after 60 once the rubber has grip on the tarmac its game over
I'll be willing to try my luck against all the redtops round hear, they all talk shit claiming 180 brake through chips and 100 extra cc. on standard inlet etc etc etc
most people that fit an xe that dont really know anything claim to run daft power and be a 2.1 as its had a .25mil over bore etc. smoke them daz, show them who is boss.
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Ryan
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lol that would be jonno then
edit: that was a reply to daz
[Edited on 04-02-2009 by RYAN89]
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DAZ1985
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i cant mention names ryan
tbf though what gain do you get from a 2.1?
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Nic Barnes
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Originally posted by DAZ1985
i cant mention names ryan
tbf though what gain do you get from a 2.1?
better torque, thinner bore walls etc.....
you can virtually get to a 2.1, but id doubt any of the std xe's that say theyre a 2.1 are actually a 2.1 or even close. maybe 2011cc or something.
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SportBoy
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next to nothing .. prob the difference in having a dump or not before you go out
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