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16th Sep 09 at 20:53   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

A 1.4 Sport is NOWHERE near as quick as as a 1.6. Even with a Mantzel on it's just about even.
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only 15bhp difference?
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16th Sep 09 at 20:59   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

But less torque as well. With my Mantzel, 4-2-1 and cat back system I'd probably just edge past, if I'm lucky.
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a 1.4 sport is just as quick as a 1.6 sport when you start to fiddle. as warren said. cheaper tax, insurance and there is nothing in it between the both of them to start with.
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my corsa was quicker than a zs, vtr ect and on par with a vts saxo. and my mate 1.4 corsa with the same mods as me would always be in my mirror, quite annoying really.
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When you fiddle with it to make them as quick, the insurance will go up too And omfg there is something between them to start with, are you all joking
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no im not joking,

my 1.6 was.
c16xe head
x16xe bottom end
vxperformance inlet
raceland 4-2-1 manifold
sportex decat
ashley performace exhaust
k8n panel

1.4 sport
c16xe head
x14xe bottom end
vxperformance inlet
spotex manifold
ashley cat back system
k&n pannel filter

so nearly the same mods and i would only creep away. 1.4 seem to respond better to mods
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yeh the 1.4's respond better to mods

i had 113bhp from mantzel, 4branch and system

was quicker than a few 1.6's

the difference isnt worth it, if you looking for a cheaper car to run

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Aye they respond better to mods, but saying there isn't anything in at as standard is madness. The 1.6 has almost 20% more power than the 1.4
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but isnt 20% quicker - our point

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its not madness, they aren't much quicker
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its not really worth paying double the tax and alot more insurance.
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true a x14 is not to far behind a x16..

there are more of them about than a x16 tbh.

and with just a decent 4-2-1 manifold, inlet manifold, good back box, and panel filter (possable cams if budget allows) they are pritty quick cars...

i have a x14 and it isnt a slouch, and it makes a difference with just a back box on these engines.. (you can feel it being held back slightly with the standard system)
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Originally posted by gez c16b
its not madness, they aren't much quicker


As standard, they are. But it must just be all the shite drivers from around my way
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quote:
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its not really worth paying double the tax and alot more insurance.


Then buy an SXi. Not worth the insurance as they aren't THAT far behind a Sport.
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16bhp more and 1 sec less to 60
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And much better from then onwards.
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1.2 16v has 25bhp less than a 1.4 sport and is 2 and a half seconds slower to 60
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its not really worth paying double the tax and alot more insurance.


Then buy an SXi. Not worth the insurance as they aren't THAT far behind a Sport.


now your just being silly.
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1.2 16v has 25bhp less than a 1.4 sport and is 2 and a half seconds slower to 60


But you save on insurance and petrol

I'm really not being silly. If the lad asked for something other than a 1.6 Sport or ZS, then fire the suggestions away. But they were not needed in this thread And I stand by my opinion that they are easily dispatched by a 1.6 Sport. Pulls away to 60, then is off. Adding a Mantzel will make them quicker aye, but then they are utterly gutless through the midrange until it hits the power band
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My sxi was like shite off a shovel, could fair move for what it was
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16bhp more and 1 sec less to 60


and that could be the difference between a decent get off the line and a crap one...

whats the standard 0-60 time of a 14 and a 16 cannt remember?
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10.5 for the 14, and 9.6 for the 16 iirc.
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9.5
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gsi 0-100 is 29.8

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