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flybikeslee
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andy1868
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white balance is abit out on the first one lee

you can argue all day the JDM ones are "better". they could be identical in every way and the JDM one would still be "better".

i like the UK bumper so shoot me for buying one, if i want the 10bhp back i can get it through a new exhaust. in the meantime i'm crusining round with my AC keeping cool in my low mileage 1 lady owner car that on the roads is barely/if any slower than an JDM one
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championship white balance, the first thing to do before anything is lower them. something andynumbersprick has been to lazy to do
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TBF i haven't done anything to it. so it could still be the first thing to be done
x14xe sport
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This was the result:



tbh thats pretty impressive
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Think I prefer the uk 4 headlight ones.
Anyway haven't the jdm cars usually got more power because their fuel is better?
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the more power comes from the 2.5" bore exhaust on the JDM ones as opposed to 2.25" on the UK ones afaik
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Vtec in reverse yo!

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Im not a fan of the JDM DC2,would pick a UK version over 1 anyday.Much prefer the front of the UK and hate the rear bumpers on the JDM.

My mate had a UK DC2 and the way this thing went round corners was unreal,even at speed it just felt like you could do it even faster and it would still make it.Point and shoot.
Straight line speed isnt up to much,even when in Vtec.
His 1st time on the 1/4 mile was against a JDM model and it was neck and neck across the line.The only thing that let him down was his was running 17" EP3 wheels and the JDM was on standard 15s.Off the line the JDM nosed ahead by a ball hair,but by the end it was even stevens.
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quote:
Originally posted by Corsa_Sport21
Im not a fan of the JDM DC2,would pick a UK version over 1 anyday.Much prefer the front of the UK and hate the rear bumpers on the JDM.

My mate had a UK DC2 and the way this thing went round corners was unreal,even at speed it just felt like you could do it even faster and it would still make it.Point and shoot.
Straight line speed isnt up to much,even when in Vtec.
His 1st time on the 1/4 mile was against a JDM model and it was neck and neck across the line.The only thing that let him down was his was running 17" EP3 wheels and the JDM was on standard 15s.Off the line the JDM nosed ahead by a ball hair,but by the end it was even stevens.


i think it would be easily available for a swap mate as i mailed 3 today and got three replies?
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quote:
Originally posted by MJ
What would you like to know mate. Ask away

Cheers MJ


well since yours is jdm is the insurance really that much difference?
MJ
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quote:
Originally posted by Corsa_Sport21
Im not a fan of the JDM DC2,would pick a UK version over 1 anyday.Much prefer the front of the UK and hate the rear bumpers on the JDM.

My mate had a UK DC2 and the way this thing went round corners was unreal,even at speed it just felt like you could do it even faster and it would still make it.Point and shoot.
Straight line speed isnt up to much,even when in Vtec.
His 1st time on the 1/4 mile was against a JDM model and it was neck and neck across the line.The only thing that let him down was his was running 17" EP3 wheels and the JDM was on standard 15s.Off the line the JDM nosed ahead by a ball hair,but by the end it was even stevens.


Sorry mate but the uk rear bumper is the same as a JDM bumper except for the rear fog light. The 96 spec JDM model has a different bumper but alot of people fit the later spec model. The best model is the JDM 98 spec which uses 16" wheels instead of 15"

Cheers MJ
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did you see my post mate?
MJ
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quote:
Originally posted by john-d
quote:
Originally posted by MJ
What would you like to know mate. Ask away

Cheers MJ


well since yours is jdm is the insurance really that much difference?


I never looked at the price for uk models sorry i had to go true jap lol i pay £600 FC with all mods insured. 6yrs NCD and protected. They are not the quickest things in a straight line but wait till you get to the twisties and its just make sure you get decent tyres and mods to make it great otherwise you can ruin it.
MJ
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Here is the progress thread on mine

http://www.corsasport.co.uk/board/viewthread.php?tid=457258
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cool that not that bad, in talks with a scottish lad bout a 97 69k 1, straight swap his is up for 5k on ph but i await pics
MJ
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u can get 98 specs for around 6k sometimes just a bit lower.
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mines probably worth 4800 at a push to the right person, he seems intersted been texting me all day about it ill find the add.
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http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/1215818.htm

there ya go, as said im awaiting pics
MJ
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hmmm its ok but i would be a bit warry of it. the vtec controller makes no difference and it might be using a cheap air filter and exhaust that ruines the performance. I would take a look at a few before you decide. Join itr-dc2.com there are lots on there and geniune sellers.
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i want a no hastle swap though, like a say im still awaiting pics etc and full info from him like tax test history, just an option
MJ
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Yer its a lot easyer that way, if its a good one then go for it you will love it
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any 1 know the diff between an sir? and type r?
MJ
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EXTERIOR/BODY
1)Spoilers - The Front and Rear spoilers were developed in an air dome test. The
front and the rear spoilers are pefectly balanced with one another creating the
same amount of lift.
2)Tires - BS Potenza RE010 195/55R 15"
3)Front - Side Frame Tip
4)Rear - Frame Back Tip

5)Stiffer Front Strut Tower Brace
6)Rear Lower Tie Rod End Bar
7)Removal of rear carpeting and lining
8)Five Lug Wheels
9)No Sun Roof
10)Type R specific badging
11)Type R Red 'A' emblems
12)Increased Wheelhouse thickness
13)Thicker Rear Pillar Upper Girdle
14)Thicker Roof Rail Upper
15)Thicker Rear Damper Gusset
16)Thicker Rear Lower Arm Bracket
17)Thicker Rear Wheel Arch
18)Third Brake Light
19)Absence of rear wiper

INTERIOR
1)Different Tach.
2)Carbon Fiber Gauge Bezel
3)Type R shift boot
4)Type R shift knob
5)Type R seats with bigger and more supportive bolstering - Semi Bucket
6)Type R plaque
7)No willy wanging in a car park Control
CoolA/C Optional
9)Black w/ red stitching theme on knob, front and rear seats.
10)Different cloth used for seats and door panels


ENGINE There are a total of 60 different parts in the Type R
1)195hp @8000rpm----------------------------------------(GS-R - 170ph @7600rpm)
2)130lbs-ft @7500rpm-------------------------------------(128lbs-ft @6200rpm)
3)8400rpm Redline---------------------------------------- (GS-R - 8100rpm)
4)8500rpm fuel cut-off-------------------------------------(GS-R - 8200rpm)
5)B18C5 - engine code------------------------------------(GS-R - B18C1)
6)1797cc----------------------------------------------------(GS-R - 1797cc)
7)Compression - 10.6:1-----------------------------------(GS-R - 10.0:1
8)Port Buffed Head-----------------------------------------(GS-R - N/A)
9)Port Buffed Valve Seats---------------------------------GS-R - N/A)
10)Conrod Bolts fastened using a Micrometer------------(GS-R - N/A)
11)Air Intake Diameter - 70mm----------------------------(GS-R - 65mm)
12)Throttle Body Diameter - 62mm------------------------GS-R - 60mm)
13)Valve Seat Opening Angle - 45 deg.--------------------(GS-R - 60 deg.)
14)Air Intake - Straighter----------------------------------(GS-R - N/A)
15)Relocation of air intake to inside the fender----------(GS-R - Same)
16)Exhaust Pipe Diameter - 57.2mm---------------------(GS-R - 50.8mm)
17)Tailpipe Diameter - 76mm-----------------------------(GS-R - 50.8mm)
18)Modified Exhaust Pipe----------------------------------(GS-R - N/A)
19)Enlarged Silencer---------------------------------------(GS-R - N/A)
20)100% Stainless Steel Exhaust System----------------(GS-R - N/A)
21)Bigger Valves--------------------------------------------(GS-R - N/A)
22)Light Weight Inlet Valves-------------------------------(GS-R - N/A)
23)High Lift Dual Valve Springs----------------------------(GS-R - N/A)
24)Totally Different Cam Profiles
---Intake: 11.5mm-----------------------------------------(GS-R - 10.6mm)
---Exhaust: 10.5mm---------------------------------------(GS-R - 9.4mm)
25)Intake Opening Timing Increased
---15 deg. before TDC------------------------------------(GS-R - 10 deg.)
26)Intake Closing Timing Increased
---45 deg. before BDC------------------------------------(GS-R - 40 deg.)
27)Exhaust Opening Timing Increased
---45 deg. before BDC------------------------------------(GS-R - 40 deg.)
28)Exhaust Closing Timing Increased
---10 deg. before TDC-------------------------------------(GS-R - 7 deg.)
29)Lower Friction Pistons ---------------------------------(GS-R - N/A)
30)Specially made Conrod bolts--------------------------(GS-R - N/A)
31)Molybdenum Coated Piston Skirts---------------------(GS-R - N/A)
32)Light Weight Piston Skirts------------------------------(GS-R - N/A)
33)Increased Side Molds on pistons-----------------------(GS-R - N/A)
34)Light Weight Reinforced Piston Rods-------------------(GS-R - N/A)
35)Fully Balanced 8 Weight Crank Shaft------------------(GS-R - N/A)
---Weights were added to #1 & #4
36)New Adjustable Connectors on Crank Shaft----------(GS-R - N/A)
37)Fully Balanced Crank Shaft-----------------------------(GS-R - N/A)
38)Connecting Rods Mirror Polished-----------------------(GS-R - N/A)
39)Valve Shaft Diameter Decreased - 4.6mm------------(GS-R - 5.5mm)
---12% Lighter
40)Injectors on bottom of pistons--------------------------(GS-R - N/A)
----Prevents "burned-in" pistons
41)Single Port Intake Manifold-----------------------------(GS-R - N/A)
42)NGK High Spark #7 Platinum Plugs--------------------(GS-R - N/A)
43)Hand Ported A-Pipe--------------------------------------(GS-R - N/A)
44)Smaller Battery------------------------------------------(GS-R - N/A)
45)Aluminum Radiator--------------------------------------(GS-R - N/A)
46)Honda Red Valve Cover---------------------------------(GS-R - N/A)
47)Transmission Stiffener Brace---------------------------(GS-R - N/A)
48)Fuel Rail Stay---------------------------------------------(GS-R - N/A)

PERFORMANCE & MISC.
1/4 Mile Time: 14.746 Type R----------------1/4 Mile Time: 15.3 GS-R

Type R Gear Ratios (pre 98')----------------GS-R Gear Ratios
1st. 3.230------------------------------------1st. 3.230
2nd. 2.105------------------------------------2nd. 1.900
3rd. 1.458-------------------------------------3rd. 1.360
4th. 1.107-------------------------------------4th. 1.034
5th. 0.848-------------------------------------5th. 0.787
FINAL: 4.400-----------------------------------FINAL: 4.400


**Suspension Rates**
----------------------------------Type R----------------------GS-R
FRONT:
spring rates:-------------------4.4kg/mm------------------3.8kg/mm
damper:-----------------------245kg full-------------------144kg full
---------------------------------161kg short-----------------75kg short
stabilizer(inches)-------------0.95--------------------------0.95

REAR:
spring rates:------------------2.5-4.4kg/mm--------------2.0kg/mm
------------------------(Progressive Spring Rate)
damper:-----------------------118kg full-------------------90kg full
----------------------------------70kg full---------------------42kg full
stabilizer(mm)-----------------22mm------------------------13mm

Damper Mnt. Bushing:---------370kgf/mm---------------70kgf/mm


Corner Weight Measurement: Left & Right Differences
---------------------------------Type R-----------------------GS-R
---Weight: Front:--------------19.8--------------------------17.6
---(lbs.) Rear:----------------52.9--------------------------41.9
---Height: Front:---------------0.04--------------------------0.12
---(inches) Rear:---------------0-----------------------------0.04
---BALANCE:------------------63:37------------------------64:36

BRAKES:-----------------------Type R-----------------------GS-R
--Front:-------------------------282mm-------------------- 262mm
--Rear:------------------------- 262mm---------------------242mm

HEIGHT:-----------------------50.2 inches-------------------?????
REAR TRACK:-----------------57.9 inches-------------------?????
WEIGHT:-----------------------2639lbs---------------------?????

BRAKING (100mph - 0)------269.7ft.-----------------------?????


MASS GAIN - COMPAIRED TO GS-R
**If you want these numbers in lbs. simply times the kg by 2.2**

Stiffer Suspension/High-grip--------------------------------+5.500kg
LSD-----------------------------------------------------------+1.500kg
Performance Rod & Aluminum Make-----------------------+3.440kg
Body Stiffening Metal Sheets-------------------------------+1.711kg
Strengthening Wheel Bolts & Bearings---------------------+0.704kg
Strengthening Tailgate Area--------------------------------+0.313kg
Stiffer Rubber Exhaust Piping Mounts ---------------------+0.140kg
Front Spoiler--------------------------------------------------+1.034kg
Rear Spoiler--------------------------------------------------+2.900kg
Miscellaneous-------------------------------------------------+1.160kg

Total Increase:-----------------------------------------------+19.449kg


MASS DECREASE - COMPAIRED TO GSR
Lighten Flywheel'''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''-0.750kg
Lighter Engine, Exhaust Pipings''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' ''''-3.329kg
Aluminum Radiator'''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' ''''''''''''''''''''''''''''-1.350kg
Compact Battery''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''-3.000kg
Lighter Aluminum Wheels'''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' ''''''''''''''-5.200kg
Floor Sheetmetal Removed''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' ''''''''''''-10.665kg
Dashboard Insulator Removed''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''-3.869kg
Fuel Tank Wave Absorber Removed''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''-0.450kg
Floor Heat Panel Removed''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''-0.272kg
Resin Spare Tire Lid''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''-0.997kg
Aluminum Left-Side "Stopper Bracket"'''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''-1.300kg
Rear Wiper Removal''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' ''''''''''''''''''''''''-1.851kg
Air Conditioner Removal (optional)'''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''-18.700kg
Miscellaneous''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''-6.919kg

Total Decrease'''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' ''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''-58.317kg
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fuck me where did you find that, guess a sir wouldnt hold value aswell either? type r it will be then lol

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