Warren G
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quote: Originally posted by Linch
quote: Originally posted by Warren G
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMTVDI_RjlQ
slower than my 1.6 
says alot lol,
1.8 standard ones anyway drive alot nicer in a corsa b than a 1.6, much torquer
You know you want to be aloud back into the x16 club
i know what your taking about 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DbDR4l2jZnI
but to be far, the new engine will be mapped properly and be 190-200bhp with 140-150lbft and should actulay be fast!
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Kevxx
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an xe on carbs is quite a considerable amount more than a 1800, and you know this nic 
alot of work insetting up TB;s with management, or carbs with a uprated ignition, then getting the carb setup correctly. etc etc.
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Nic Barnes
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quote: Originally posted by Kevxx
an xe on carbs is quite a considerable amount more than a 1800, and you know this nic 
alot of work insetting up TB;s with management, or carbs with a uprated ignition, then getting the carb setup correctly. etc etc.
yes, i do know. i just found it laughable what that mk4_boy was trying to say. obviously clueless.
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Corsa_Sport21
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Theres a very usefull guide over on Mig about fitting R1 carbs to an XE.
Looks very easy and straightforward,but i think its the re-jetting and setting up the fueling etc thats the hard bit.
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Kevxx
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quote: Originally posted by Corsa_Sport21
Theres a very usefull guide over on Mig about fitting R1 carbs to an XE.
Looks very easy and straightforward,but i think its the re-jetting and setting up the fueling etc thats the hard bit.
then the new ignition you'll need, then all the fucking about getting it actually set correctly without a rolling road 
It can be done i'd say for £500 on carbs ..thats if your very good at setting it up yourself.
if it was as easy as everyone says, everyone would have carb'd engines surely..
[Edited on 25-01-2010 by Kevxx]
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Nic Barnes
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carb's are just not the best. for the sake of bike tb's being so cheap its better to get them and full programable ecu and have it done that way. but then again, your talking a lot more than similar money to an 1800 conversion.
similar money, still lol at that.
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Ojc
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5 pages
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Mieran
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The whole point of the small block 1.8 conversion is how easy it is.
If a Z18XE required same amount of work and parts as a C20XE to install it into a Corsa no one would bother.
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Mike GSi
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If you already had a x14xe,x16xe or c16xe.
Couldnt you just use all of the existing stuff? Mounts,shafts,hubs,brakes,gearbox,power steering?
Costing alot less money than the other "conversion parts" for a 20XE?
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Nic Barnes
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quote: Originally posted by Mike GSi
If you already had a x14xe,x16xe or c16xe.
Couldnt you just use all of the existing stuff? Mounts,shafts,hubs,brakes,gearbox,power steering?
Costing alot less money than the other "conversion parts" for a 20XE?
thus making it nowhere near similar money as an xe on bike carbs pmsl
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Mike GSi
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My point Exactly The only Cost would be for the engine which is peanuts tbf
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Kevxx
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that said, my mates uncles dead gay brother will install an xe on carbs and running gear for 2 pints, pack of fags.
you supply engine of course like.
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John
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Have we found out how an engine with less power and torque is faster yet?
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Nic Barnes
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quote: Originally posted by John
Have we found out how an engine with less power and torque is faster yet?
its 20kg lighter than an xe. perhaps thats why? power to weight?
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Corsa_Sport21
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quote: Originally posted by Kevxx
quote: Originally posted by Corsa_Sport21
Theres a very usefull guide over on Mig about fitting R1 carbs to an XE.
Looks very easy and straightforward,but i think its the re-jetting and setting up the fueling etc thats the hard bit.
then the new ignition you'll need, then all the fucking about getting it actually set correctly without a rolling road 
It can be done i'd say for £500 on carbs ..thats if your very good at setting it up yourself.
if it was as easy as everyone says, everyone would have carb'd engines surely..
[Edited on 25-01-2010 by Kevxx]
Ignition side is sorted with a cav adjustable dizzy etc.
I think its the scary low mpg and fuking about getting the fueling correct that puts people off doing it.
Old school tuners can set carbs up.Theres a few places quite local to me who could do it.
My post was purely aimed at carbing an XE,and in no relation to the cost of an 1800 conversion.
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Kevxx
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i've heard running the cav dizzy is shady, doesn't run right, well over or underfuels, isn't very good.
you can do it cheap, but better to spend a bit of cash on what your doing.
i've got carbs being fitted march/april, i'll get a nice shocker with the mpg im sure!
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Nic Barnes
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yeah cav dizzy not ideal at all.
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Warren G
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this has gone way of course as usual
he didnt even ask about comparing
tbh, you can realy gauge by a video, only by being in a car
and to compare, you need two side by side
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Nic Barnes
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theyre not going to be any faster than a 1.6 with a powerbox and exhaust manifold is the answer.
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Warren G
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what about the same mods on the 1.8 though..
standard for standard figures speak for them selfs
a standard 1.8 will be faster than a 1.6, a standard 2.0 will be faster than both, simplies!
personaly if i wanted a quick car, id just buy one, oh i have
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Nic Barnes
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did you get the civic then i take it warren?
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Daveskater
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How about at PVS a 1.8 and an XE go up the strip together? 
Numberwang!
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I like you Dave, you are a man of men
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Dave's maybe capable of a drive-by cuddle
Look at my pictures
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Warren G
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xe will win
il tell you that now lol
i dont think anyone would disagree
1.6 vs 1.8 more interesting
oh and nic, no i got an astra gsi instead, i fancied some torque thats all
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Nic Barnes
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quote: Originally posted by Daveskater
How about at PVS a 1.8 and an XE go up the strip together?
davey LC chickened out last year with a load of excuses. BIG let down from the major player in the 1800 game.
kinda makes you think are they as quick as people go on about? seen as nobody will prove it...................
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Jake
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three corsa b's had a drag in mk:
x16xe with panel filter and fse boost valve for when the secondary air pump kicks in at 4500
standard redtop
standard 1800
dead level
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