thegsi
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The red car reminds me of a certain car close to myself 
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Mike GSi
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Lets not forget the Audi/VW 4 Motion too!
What i find silly is, they used to make Siera XR4x4's and also carried on making Mondeo 2.0 Ghia 4x4's, Escort RS2000's were 4x4 too.
They have done it before several times so imo there is no excuses!
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broster
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Originally posted by CORSA NUT
It's just because they never had a 4WD system to fit to it...simple really.
volvo stuff bolts straight into it....
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neil h
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Originally posted by CORSA NUT
It's just because they never had a 4WD system to fit to it...simple really.
Really? The focus WRC cars have been 4wd for years, can't see they couldn't just transfer the lot across for a limited edition car like the RS.
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broster
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quote:
Originally posted by neil h
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Originally posted by CORSA NUT
It's just because they never had a 4WD system to fit to it...simple really.
Really? The focus WRC cars have been 4wd for years, can't see they couldn't just transfer the lot across for a limited edition car like the RS.
that would be a very costly road car!
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ed
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Transfer a hydraulically actuated sequential gearbox with straight cut gears onto a road version? That gearbox probably costs as much as the retail on the current Focus RS.
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neil h
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Not the whole transmission system, surely the rally 4wd mechanism could be reverse engineered to accept a conventional manual gear box.
[Edited on 08-03-2010 by neil h]
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ed
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Then you're just developing a new drivetrain.
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3CorsaMeal
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What a load of tosh.
Are you seriously telling me that all cars without Revo knuckle drive like the red one?
thats how my corrado feels  all over the road 
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neil h
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Originally posted by ed
Then you're just developing a new drivetrain.
The majority of the design would have already been done for the WRC car, all that ford needed to do then is to find a way to mate it up to the engine/gearbox from the FRS.
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3CorsaMeal
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who wants to haul around a 4wd drive system on public roads anyway??
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ed
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quote:
Originally posted by neil h
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Originally posted by ed
Then you're just developing a new drivetrain.
The majority of the design would have already been done for the WRC car, all that ford needed to do then is to find a way to mate it up to the engine/gearbox from the FRS.
I don't think you're taking into consideration the amount of work and development that would need to go into this.
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Corsa_Sport21
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Might be a stupid question but why couldnt they use the same system that was fitted to the Escos??Maybe develop it a wee bit etc.
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ed
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Bit dated, but also the engine is longitudinally mounted so that would mean that the whole floorpan and a lot of the interior would need to be re-developed. The way they got around it in the Escos is to use the Sierra platform with an Escort body, as the Escort was FWD.
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ed
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(I really don't think the world would be impressed with a car which had it's platform developed in 1980 either  )
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Corsa_Sport21
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Oh yeah,i forgot about the way the engines were mounted.
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ed
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I think the realistic option for it would have to be a Haldex system (Quattro with a transfer box). But you've then got to wonder what they're aiming for. Fast hot hatch or RS4 wannabe? It's missing a fair chunk of engine to try and be an RS4 and it apparently drives rather well for a hot hatch.
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adiohead
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they should have aimed for a rally inspired road car, imo
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broster
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quote:
Originally posted by broster
quote:
Originally posted by CORSA NUT
It's just because they never had a 4WD system to fit to it...simple really.
volvo stuff bolts straight into it....
why engineer something new..... volvo did it! the rs even has the mounting holes as it shares alot of the same floor pan.....
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sand-eel
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quote:
Originally posted by neil h
quote:
Originally posted by CORSA NUT
It's just because they never had a 4WD system to fit to it...simple really.
Really? The focus WRC cars have been 4wd for years, can't see they couldn't just transfer the lot across for a limited edition car like the RS.
M-Sport WRC cars rear diffs are £25k, front diff £35K.
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FruitBooTeR
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quote:
Originally posted by broster
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Originally posted by broster
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Originally posted by CORSA NUT
It's just because they never had a 4WD system to fit to it...simple really.
volvo stuff bolts straight into it....
why engineer something new..... volvo did it! the rs even has the mounting holes as it shares alot of the same floor pan.....
Sounds like Jam-Sport will be unveiling a AWD Focus RS in the distant future
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SVM 286
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fhq6sjIo5Cs
A short, vague cartoon with commentary by a deaf Australian lady and somehow i'm none the wiser.
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Nath
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Originally posted by broster
why engineer something new..... volvo did it! the rs even has the mounting holes as it shares alot of the same floor pan.....
Sssh let the experts tell him it's impossible.
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Fro
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The way she says focus 'aRSe' makes me
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SVM 286
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Originally posted by SetH
Mitsubishi and Subaru manage to do it in sub 30k cars so why can't ford?
Because they wouldn't be able to pocket so much cold hard cash from the sale of each car. Ford are tight, stingy fuckers and always have been.
The damn thing should have been RWD. That would have been simple and cheap enough.
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