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Originally posted by only_45_bhp?
why in the name of satan's portion has my '94 M 1.2i merit only got 4 gears?
what were vaux thinking when they put that in?
have all merits only got the 4-speed? how much would it be to have a reconditioned/new 5-speed transplanted in there? would it make any difference to performance, fuel consumption, etc?
grateful for any answers, suggestions.
No help, as the 5 speed 'box that you would have to attatch to the engine would only have a 5th gear added on, the resat of the ratios remain the same... I thought abou doing this, but then never bothered, as it would only come into use on downhills or motorways, cos the engine lacks power...
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j0hn
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holy shit our cars are slow fuckers
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bravotwozero007
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i thought the 1.0 12v b had 54/55 bhp
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bravotwozero007
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so slow, we could be driving miss daisy!
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Siberia
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quote:
Originally posted by only_45_bhp?
why in the name of satan's portion has my '94 M 1.2i merit only got 4 gears?
what were vaux thinking when they put that in?
have all merits only got the 4-speed? how much would it be to have a reconditioned/new 5-speed transplanted in there? would it make any difference to performance, fuel consumption, etc?
grateful for any answers, suggestions.
all merits do yes but not all 1.2's. mine did have 4 gears but changed the box for a five speed out of a swing.
today i finally drove a corsa slower than my 1.2 8v. it was a a 1.0 12v
like i put my foot on the floor in this thing in first and the car just didnt go anywere and thought my 8v was bad
another thing it was the first time i let someone else take my car for a spin as as he went off down the road holly sh*t the noise of the drilled airbox it sounded like i have a large exhaust on it but its only a standard zorst
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mike_1.2LS96
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The 8v engines have more torque at lower revs I think. You tend to notice it, when going up a hill in second or third on idle in 8v engines, the 16v just cant hack it
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Siberia
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well the fact that the 1.0 12v i drove yesterday had all this crap in the boot i say was a contributing factor to its slow performance
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Originally posted by Plymouth_Corsa
1.0 12v - 55bhp corsa b
1.0 12v - 58bhp corsa c
1.2 8v - 44bhp corsa b
1.2 16v - 65bhp corsa b
1.2 16v - 75bhp corsa c
1.4 8v - 60bhp corsa b non sri
1.4 8v - 82bhp corsa b sri
1.4 16v - 89bhp corsa b/c sri/sport
1.6 16v - 105bhp corsa b
there you go mate, hope that helps.
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ross. you are driven by the small things. I would just like to add that the F10 5 speed gearbox is identical to the F10 4 speed in terms of ratios of 1-4. The 5th gear is just an overdrive gear, and the engine does not have the power to pull the car faster in this gear than in 4th gear, thats why the top speed for the Corsa B 1,2 8v 5 speed is attained in 4th.
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Siberia
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Originally posted by Cybermonkey24
ross. you are driven by the small things. I would just like to add that the F10 5 speed gearbox is identical to the F10 4 speed in terms of ratios of 1-4. The 5th gear is just an overdrive gear, and the engine does not have the power to pull the car faster in this gear than in 4th gear, thats why the top speed for the Corsa B 1,2 8v 5 speed is attained in 4th.
well having had a 4 speed and changing it for a five speed there is no way my car would have done 85-90 in fourth. but it did in fifth
going up hill however the engine just dies and u have to change into four
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only_45_bhp?
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Originally posted by Siberia
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Originally posted by only_45_bhp?
why in the name of satan's portion has my '94 M 1.2i merit only got 4 gears?
what were vaux thinking when they put that in?
have all merits only got the 4-speed? how much would it be to have a reconditioned/new 5-speed transplanted in there? would it make any difference to performance, fuel consumption, etc?
grateful for any answers, suggestions.
all merits do yes but not all 1.2's. mine did have 4 gears but changed the box for a five speed out of a swing.
today i finally drove a corsa slower than my 1.2 8v. it was a a 1.0 12v
like i put my foot on the floor in this thing in first and the car just didnt go anywere and thought my 8v was bad
another thing it was the first time i let someone else take my car for a spin as as he went off down the road holly sh*t the noise of the drilled airbox it sounded like i have a large exhaust on it but its only a standard zorst
how much did it cost to have the 4-speed box replaced for a 5-speed?
where could i find a decent gearbox, scrappy's aint much good as i havent the first clue how to get a gearbox out...
what u reckon?
[Edited on 27-06-2004 by only_45_bhp?]
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Siberia
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well for 120 euro's (70 pounds) i got an f10 five speed box, 2 drive shafts, to inner cv's, 2 outer cv's, and the gear linkage all the way up the the gearstick.
i done all the work myself
i wouldnt bother doing this conversion if you have to pay somebody to do the work. u'd be better of paying someone to put an bigger engine and 5 speed gearbox with it. i think lee mitchel will only charge you 700 quid for this inclueding the parts
[Edited on 27-06-2004 by Siberia]
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Originally posted by Siberia
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Originally posted by Cybermonkey24
ross. you are driven by the small things. I would just like to add that the F10 5 speed gearbox is identical to the F10 4 speed in terms of ratios of 1-4. The 5th gear is just an overdrive gear, and the engine does not have the power to pull the car faster in this gear than in 4th gear, thats why the top speed for the Corsa B 1,2 8v 5 speed is attained in 4th.
well having had a 4 speed and changing it for a five speed there is no way my car would have done 85-90 in fourth. but it did in fifth
going up hill however the engine just dies and u have to change into four
you cannot go any faster in 5th than in 4th.
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Siberia
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well have had both and down hill in 5th gear the car goes about 5-10 miles faster than it did in fourth depending on the wind
also i hear people on here saying that their 1.2 8v done 100MPH.
i dunno maybe mine isnt running right(which i doubt) but there is no way my car would do over 90 not a hope!
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Cybermonkey
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5th is very much an overdrive gear. Both gearboxes are F10's but one has an extra gear. Does not have the power to overcome rolling resistance and air resistance to go faster in 5th. Have heard people saying they got 120mph from their 1.2's. Fastest on a flat, straight road is 96mph.
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j0hn
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shite saxo vtr got more power than gsi??
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j0hn
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Originally posted by Siberia
well have had both and down hill in 5th gear the car goes about 5-10 miles faster than it did in fourth depending on the wind
also i hear people on here saying that their 1.2 8v done 100MPH.
i dunno maybe mine isnt running right(which i doubt) but there is no way my car would do over 90 not a hope!
iv done 100mph on the M3 only once ever with a low amount of fuel but usuallyl yeh top speed is 92 in 4th, then i got 5th it goes to 90mph 
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i believe down a hill u can get 112 outa a 1.2 8v, but its unachievable on the flat afaik. Tho ive got nothing close to it, ive managed 91 ish on the flat with no wind (private road obv.) with my 5sd.
So if the F10 has 4 forward gears, the F12 has 5 forward gears, but ratioed the same.
What are the other F- gearboxes??
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Originally posted by Visionz
i believe down a hill u can get 112 outa a 1.2 8v, but its unachievable on the flat afaik. Tho ive got nothing close to it, ive managed 91 ish on the flat with no wind (private road obv.) with my 5sd.
So if the F10 has 4 forward gears, the F12 has 5 forward gears, but ratioed the same.
What are the other F- gearboxes??
where is this hill??? Had an indicated 78mph outta mine in 3rd today, was at about 6200rpm 
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ive had 104 down hill outa my 1.2 8v. normaly it just sits around 95ish
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Cybermonkey
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quote:
Originally posted by Visionz
i believe down a hill u can get 112 outa a 1.2 8v, but its unachievable on the flat afaik. Tho ive got nothing close to it, ive managed 91 ish on the flat with no wind (private road obv.) with my 5sd.
So if the F10 has 4 forward gears, the F12 has 5 forward gears, but ratioed the same.
What are the other F- gearboxes??
WTF is an F12??? no such thing mate. Its F10/F13/F15. these are the gearboxes fitted to all types of corsa B. F10 comes in both 4 and 5 speed variations. Its been salvaged from the nova, along with the 1.2 8v engine, bar the fuel injection.
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shite saxo vtr got more power than gsi??
VTR has 90/100bhp depending on engine. GSi has 109. and is quicker.
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Originally posted by j0hn
shite saxo vtr got more power than gsi??
VTR has 90/100bhp depending on engine. GSi has 109. and is quicker.
wud luve t believe it but i dont cos iv seen the fuckers who drive VTRs and they spunk all over GSi's 
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Originally posted by Cybermonkey24
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Originally posted by j0hn
shite saxo vtr got more power than gsi??
VTR has 90/100bhp depending on engine. GSi has 109. and is quicker.
wud luve t believe it but i dont cos iv seen the fuckers who drive VTRs and they spunk all over GSi's
FPMSL please shut the fuck up! My Sport 1.6 had 106bhp and could easily out accelerate any VTR. 0-60, 0-100, 30-90, whatever its quicker throughout. Not only has the Corsa got a higher top end speed, but torque is a fair bit more in corsa too, hence aiding acceleration from standstill. Corsa is about 75-85kg heavier though. But it dont matter because its a fair bit quicker. 0-60 of c16 GSi is about 8.5-9 seconds, VTR is about 10.
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