Jambo
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Autocar rates it pretty much the same as the clio. Which they rate as the best small hatch and as good as a focus rs on the road...
so in short. Very good.
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Daimo B
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quote:
Originally posted by AK
Oliver - i'm half agreeing with you.,
May appear to handle well to most folks needs... on a road where they are never really pushed.
BUT - if you take any standard car (bar things like GT3 RSs etc) on track or give it sustained abuse on back roads you will notice its shortcomings.
Brakes fade, too much body roll etc.
I concour.
Awaits internetz people flaming me.
VXR "should" be better on the road, lots more torque makes it a better road car. On track though, Clio thrashes it quite easily.
[Edited on 20-05-2010 by VXR]
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Ian
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I've not spent any length of time in one but around Bruntingthorpe I came away fairly impressed. Of course there are mass-market compromises but I was suprised at the tendencies, the rear certainly makes a contribution to turn in, even if the necessary understeer is handed to you on the edge. As for what differs I'm not sure. Modern EPC may yield some clues.
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Ojc
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Registered: 14th Nov 00
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quote:
Originally posted by VXR
quote:
Originally posted by AK
Oliver - i'm half agreeing with you.,
May appear to handle well to most folks needs... on a road where they are never really pushed.
BUT - if you take any standard car (bar things like GT3 RSs etc) on track or give it sustained abuse on back roads you will notice its shortcomings.
Brakes fade, too much body roll etc.
I concour.
Awaits internetz people flaming me.
VXR "should" be better on the road, lots more torque makes it a better road car. On track though, Clio thrashes it quite easily.
[Edited on 20-05-2010 by VXR]
The Clio doesn't thrash it, what the fucking hell are you talking about Daimo you turd?
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mwg
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Clio thrashes it round the track m8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GjL_AyuhJnc
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Jenko_Sport
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Im sorry but 1.2 seconds round a track of that size is fuck all tbh.
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Daimo B
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Originally posted by Ojc
The Clio doesn't thrash it, what the fucking hell are you talking about Daimo you turd?
See link posted above Oliver. thats jsut one test too. It consistantly comes in slower round a track than the Clio does.
got to take the VX blinkers off dude. The Corsa has the grunt out the corners on the ROAD, but on the TRACK the clio is the far superior chassis. Even on the single example shown you can see the corsa is more squashy and more of a handfull, where as the clio is more direct and has better feedback imo.
Here comes another Damien bashing for having an opinion 
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Daimo B
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Originally posted by Jenko_Sport
Im sorry but 1.2 seconds round a track of that size is fuck all tbh.
They use the short circuit on this clip don't they (5th gear clip im guessing, thats what i've based my memory of that video on).
In which case, 1.2 seconds is huge.
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Jenko_Sport
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Well the clio did it in 1.26 and the vxr in 1.27, to me thats bugger all
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Jenko_Sport
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You could loose that time farting mid corner and moving seating position!
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FlamingCorsa
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quote:
Originally posted by Jenko_Sport
Im sorry but 1.2 seconds round a track of that size is fuck all tbh.
in that case the lotus is almost as quick as the red bull in f1....................hehehehehehe
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mwg
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Are you Ojc on another account?
[Edited on 20-05-2010 by mwg]
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Adam_B
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1.2 seconds on a 1.16 lap is massive!
However I cant take any 'TV track test' seriously. Like right at the start the Corsa went on the grass, why didnt they just do another lap? because its entertainment pretending to be factual information.
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Ben G
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1 second on the road isn't noticeable at all.
most normal people will never take their corsa vxr on track so why does everyone go on about a track being the be all and end all?
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Ojc
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That video if its Tiff is utter bollocks.
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mwg
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I couldn't give a shit either way. Its just funny lighting the touch paper and watching Ojc rant on
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Jenko_Sport
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quote:
Originally posted by Ben G
1 second on the road isn't noticeable at all.
most normal people will never take their corsa vxr on track so why does everyone go on about a track being the be all and end all?
Because its the cool thing to do, im waiting for the rest of the 'ring club' to join in with this.
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FlamingCorsa
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i think its just a case of some people love vauxhall and will defend them!
i am quite happy to admit another car is beta, i may prefer a tuned corsa vxr cos its faster and feels faster accelerating cos of the turbo! but really the clio is beta!
i love my vx220 and the power delivery is wild, but in all seriousness mums exige is beta car!
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FlamingCorsa
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Originally posted by mwg
I couldn't give a shit either way. Its just funny lighting the touch paper and watching Ojc rant on
hehehehe
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Ben G
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Originally posted by FlamingCorsa
i am quite happy to admit another car is beta, i may prefer a tuned corsa vxr cos its faster and feels faster accelerating cos of the turbo! but really the clio is beta!
better all round, or just on corners?
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Adam_B
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Driving on a track is not important at all, however I cant see a TV show anytime soon where they go thrashing the latest hot hatch round Mc donalds car park or down your local dual carrigeway.
We can only discuss the information we are presented with.
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Ojc
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I actually want to fight people in here.
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FlamingCorsa
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quote:
Originally posted by Ben G
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Originally posted by FlamingCorsa
i am quite happy to admit another car is beta, i may prefer a tuned corsa vxr cos its faster and feels faster accelerating cos of the turbo! but really the clio is beta!
better all round, or just on corners?
corners and braking the clio will excel in! but grunt of corsa and i expect fuel economy of corsa would be beta!
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Nic Barnes
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you average corsa vxr driver is not interested in track so dont see the problem. Most people dont buy a car to get an amazing ring time to post about on net. Some people just dont care. So handling on a b and a road blast they are very good. You lot need to stop pretending you are professional racing drivers. You are not. This is corsa sport.
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whitter45
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Originally posted by Ojc
Fantastic handling car, anyone that says otherwise hasn't owned one. No where near as fanatic as the Astra, difference between Clio & Corsa on the road is nothing, you might notice it on the track but I doubt it.
Great handling car? Yes.
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