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beef27
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12th Aug 10 at 14:49   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

thats wot i'm looking for going after.
beef27
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12th Aug 10 at 14:52   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

so ak do u think them cams should work then, broster says they should go
beef27
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so i think i should look at the vavles hitting or the lifters, sort that out then i should be ok
AK
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12th Aug 10 at 15:06   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

POST1 - What are you 'looking' to go after? (I thought the cams were already in?)

POST2 - They should be OK, 256deg def ok, 264 pushing it. Get them timed up correctly and then ecu MAPPED.

POST3 - No idea what you are talking about. Are you talking to yourself or asking a question?
SetH
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beef27
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12th Aug 10 at 15:24   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

yeah the cams are in and timed up correctly they dont hit wen turned over by hand but something is tapping wen running. i'm looking to get around 130-140bhp and i need to sort out this tapping first, so i may need new head or thicker head gasket then i can look at upping the rev limit
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12th Aug 10 at 15:28   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

you sure its just not the tappets tapping?
AK
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12th Aug 10 at 15:33   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

yup...

hydraulic tappets will 'tap' if they are fucked.

If its anything else - it'll be too late to simply put a thicker HG on. Piston Valve contact is pretty bad. i.e bent valves, damaged guides, damaged piston face.

If you have the cam cover off and cams out again - remove the lifters and give them a test / clean and replace if needed.
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tappets were ok before i put in cams, my bro who's a mechanic says it sounds like tappets rather than valves had it running without tapping but it ran very flat and unresponsive
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quote:
Originally posted by AK
just stop....

Put the standard cams back in - have a working car. THEN decide what you want to do.

Building a WHOLE engine around a set of cheap cams off ebay is fucking retarded if you ask me.

It will not be cheap. 1-2k without getting carried away.

For what probably amount to 10bhp.

just get an x16 or c16 and whack your inlet, exhaust manifold etc. on that. boom a decent 140bhp or so if mapped and rev raised a bit.

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AK
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quote:
Originally posted by beef27
tappets were ok before i put in cams, my bro who's a mechanic says it sounds like tappets rather than valves had it running without tapping but it ran very flat and unresponsive


1) The lifters/tappits are now working harder.
2) you'd no if it was valves - check compression anyway (as per U2U)
3) Sounds like the timing is out (have you timed them to pipers spec's?)
4) Its not mapped for the cams - the engine is still assuming its standard.
corsadonk
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12th Aug 10 at 19:59   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

On the site it says you can't use them with the standard injection, so you probably need throttle bodies. I saw these come up on Ebay and left them alone, after looking on the site and having the trouble with mine

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