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Ben G
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24th Sep 10 at 16:41   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ojc
FUCK YOU FOCUS RS FUCK YOU


playing catch up i see
Ojc
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quote:
Originally posted by mwg
That 1750 engine Alfa have started using by any chance?


That is what I was thinking, 235bhp in cloverleaf form, but looks like it's a 2.0 according to Oliver

Fiat Group (Fiat,Ferrari,Maserati,Iveco,Alfa Romeo,Abarth & Lancia) bought up a chunk of GM/Chrysler

Before I left there were memo's going round about chassis and engine sharing

[Edited on 24-09-2010 by Kurt]
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The 1800cc rumour was flying around for ages until Stu Harris said about a year ago that it will be the new Gen II engine from the Insigina SRi
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Alloys are rancid.
Ojc
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They are 21" I very much doubt they will be on any production model of the Astra
Mike GSi
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Will they be giving the New VXR AWD?
Ojc
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No.
Mike GSi
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Shame tbh, I think the new C30 is going to be a good contender tbh.
Ojc
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Not a shame, these days mechanical diffs work superb.
Mike GSi
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I agree, i personaly dont mind 300BHP through the front wheels. i find it quite fun tbh, but i do think AWD would be better, not just fo performance but for selling factors too. isnt the insignia AWD?
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It is indeed, FWD is the safe option TBH understeer is a lot more controllable than when a 4x4 decides to let go.

4x4 is also very expensive and heavy so the gains you make in traction are lost in weight.

I doubt you will ever see anyone like Ford/Renault/Vauxhall ever make a powerful hatchback with a 4x4 system ever again.

I know Audi/VW use haldex but look at the price of the cars and they don't handle any better than the Meganes/Focus/Astra of this world do they?
Mike GSi
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Very valid points there. Am i right in thinking the C30 shares the Focus chassis? therefor could/should share the AWD system?
Ojc
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Sorry just seen this that Stu Harris said earlier

We don't a DSG at the moment , but one is on the way but its of a different system to the current ones.

We won;t be carrying over the different colour seats , though those are the actual seats for the VXR.

The front is not the VXR version. The rear is nearly there

The 21" wheels are not available at launch. 19" and 20" only

The concept car is quite imposing and sleek when you see it in the flesh, we hope to have it soon for you to come and see.

Its not , for sake of clarity and I'm sure someone will ask , 4wd or 1.8turbo. Its fwd with LSD and 2,0turbo (on an engine that we've not had in the UK before).

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Engine spec sounds good with the twinscroll turbos. Would be good if the litchfield Subaru twinscroll turbos would fit. I like the looks as well although the wheels look to big in the pics.
Ojc
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I can't believe Vauxhall are going to sell the car with 20" wheels
Mike GSi
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What LSD does it have? the same one as the VXR-R or is it a new gearbox alogether?
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I'd imagine new box if it's a new engine.
Ben J
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quote:
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They are 21" I very much doubt they will be on any production model of the Astra


Stu told me the VXR will have optional 21's.
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He said today on VXRonline that it will come as standard on 19" with 20" optional.
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He said today on VXRonline that it will come as standard on 19" with 20" optional.


Isn't that the GTC not the VXR?

Maybe it was 20's then not 21's. I remember thinking WTF!! But he said they suit the style of the car which seems to be true.

[Edited on 24-09-2010 by Ben J]
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Nope VXR, check the thread.

Just reading this LSD might be electronic I hope not as Vauxhall will have copped out big time.
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Jesus. mary and joseph look at the car on them wheels!

i really dont like these cars - the new astra is a mingin shape...and that just looks...well...oh dear!
Ben G
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Very valid points there. Am i right in thinking the C30 shares the Focus chassis? therefor could/should share the AWD system?


ford don't own volvo anymore
Ben G
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just see the pics, very sexy car.

whats with the one red/one black seats? and the writing on them?

definitely vauxhall 1, ford 0 in the new hatchback design.

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