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Corsa_Sport21

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27th Sep 10 at 10:10

Aye about 155bhp instead of 125bhp.

Cams,manifolds etc are different.In the Puma they still arent all that quick.60 in high 7s.

Been looking at Puma's as of late,just the 1.7 VCT.Quite fancy 1.

Corsa_Sport21

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27th Sep 10 at 10:10

quote:
Originally posted by sc0ott

quote:
Originally posted by SnK
Fiesta easy. Put a FRP engine in. or puma engine, 1.7 go like shit off a shovel. clios are girl hair dresser cars, also french shite.

Correct me if im wrong but the frp is a puma engine, apart from the frp spec its pretty much the same engine as any other 1.7 puma and i cant see a fiesta with one take any clio sports.

Any clio below the 2.0 is a girls car.

Dunno like,id have a clean Williams3 or a Valver.

sc0ott

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27th Sep 10 at 10:43

quote:
Originally posted by Eck
The FRP is 150+bhp is it not? Would be a lot closer to a 172 with that engine, but still can't see it winning. About the same weight, less power.

Aye thats what a mean by the same engine as the other 1.7s but with more tweaks and im sure i seen a post refently from another puma owner saying the frp wasnt that much quicker than the non frp.

andy1868

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27th Sep 10 at 10:45

is pow driving that fiesta?

big eck

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27th Sep 10 at 10:46

For £3k you have a good selection of cars to choose from.

106gti
Saxo VTS
Clio 16v/172
Golf VR6

too name but a few

DannyB

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27th Sep 10 at 11:00

quote:
Originally posted by Corsa_Sport21
Williams3 or a Valver.

Williams3 is a good shout, more than that for a decent one though, no?

A 172 over a valver any day of the week, a car with a 2.0 that is meant to be there and set up to handle accordingly, I also prefer the look of the ph1, I like later models but not as much.

[Edited on 27-09-2010 by DannyB]

Corsa_Sport21

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27th Sep 10 at 11:26

quote:
Originally posted by DannyB

quote:
Originally posted by Corsa_Sport21
Williams3 or a Valver.

Williams3 is a good shout, more than that for a decent one though, no?

A 172 over a valver any day of the week, a car with a 2.0 that is meant to be there and set up to handle accordingly, I also prefer the look of the ph1, I like later models but not as much.

[Edited on 27-09-2010 by DannyB]

Not sure what they go for Danny.My comment was in reply to Scott saying anything under a 2.0 is for girls but ive just realised the Williams had a 2.0 anyway.

Not sure what u mean with your 2nd comment tho??I was refering to a Mk1 valver clio.

Eck

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27th Sep 10 at 11:28

I think Danny thought you meant a Corsa. A Williams 3 could be had for that price, a W1 cannot. Would rather the 1!

DannyB

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27th Sep 10 at 11:31

Oh sorry, yeah I thought you meant an XE Corsa.

Steve

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27th Sep 10 at 11:44

frp would easily stay with a 172 if not beat, on a track anyway, better handling, better brakes, LSD, might drop back a bit on the straights however 10bhp or whatever real world figure advantage the clio has wont make much difference

[Edited on 27-09-2010 by Steve]

Corsa_Sport21

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27th Sep 10 at 11:46

quote:
Originally posted by Eck
I think Danny thought you meant a Corsa. A Williams 3 could be had for that price, a W1 cannot. Would rather the 1!

TBH Eck,they seem to be going for around the same price after a quick squint on PH.The 3s are going for more as they tend to be cleaner/newer with less miles.

[Edited on 27-09-2010 by Corsa_Sport21]

SnK

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27th Sep 10 at 13:32

quote:
Originally posted by sc0ott

quote:
Originally posted by SnK
Fiesta easy. Put a FRP engine in. or puma engine, 1.7 go like shit off a shovel. clios are girl hair dresser cars, also french shite.

Correct me if im wrong but the frp is a puma engine, apart from the frp spec its pretty much the same engine as any other 1.7 puma and i cant see a fiesta with one take any clio sports.

Any clio below the 2.0 is a girls car.

Yeh what i ment was get either the puma engine or try find the FRP.

RKS

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27th Sep 10 at 13:37

You should also be able to pickup a 206gti for 3k,

2.0 16v 130bhp, i'm getting about 35mph average but much more on a run,

and it'll have all the toys, auto headlights, auto windscreen wipers, climate control.

worth considering mate

[Edited on 27-09-2010 by --Rikki--]

Corsa_Sport21

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27th Sep 10 at 13:40

quote:
Originally posted by --Rikki--
You should also be able to pickup a 206gti for 3k,

2.0 16v 130bhp, i'm getting about 35mph average but much more on a run,

and it'll have all the toys, auto headlights, auto windscreen wipers, climate control.

worth considering mate

[Edited on 27-09-2010 by --Rikki--]

Could pick up a 206 Gti for a bag o sand these days.

3k would probably see you get a Gti180.

Ben D

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27th Sep 10 at 14:05

quote:
Originally posted by Corsa_Sport21

quote:
Originally posted by --Rikki--
You should also be able to pickup a 206gti for 3k,

2.0 16v 130bhp, i'm getting about 35mph average but much more on a run,

and it'll have all the toys, auto headlights, auto windscreen wipers, climate control.

worth considering mate

[Edited on 27-09-2010 by --Rikki--]

Could pick up a 206 Gti for a bag o sand these days.

3k would probably see you get a Gti180.

Luke doesn't like them as that's the 1st car i suggested

John

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27th Sep 10 at 14:25

Why would you get a 206gti for that when you can get a faster, equivalently specced 172 for the same?

Corsa_Sport21

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27th Sep 10 at 14:26

quote:
Originally posted by Ben D

quote:
Originally posted by Corsa_Sport21

quote:
Originally posted by --Rikki--
You should also be able to pickup a 206gti for 3k,

2.0 16v 130bhp, i'm getting about 35mph average but much more on a run,

and it'll have all the toys, auto headlights, auto windscreen wipers, climate control.

worth considering mate

[Edited on 27-09-2010 by --Rikki--]

Could pick up a 206 Gti for a bag o sand these days.

3k would probably see you get a Gti180.

Luke doesn't like them as that's the 1st car i suggested

Decent cars the 180s and alot quicker than what they seem on paper.Id have 1 over a CTR anyday.

Ben D

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27th Sep 10 at 14:59

quote:
Originally posted by John
Why would you get a 206gti for that when you can get a faster, equivalently specced 172 for the same?

The interior is much better in a 206 GTi to start with and they look miles better, I loved my old one, And faster? Not really.

I'm not bias at all but i think i would rather a 206 GTi day to day than a 172 Cup

adiohead

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27th Sep 10 at 15:24

It's a lot slower but I'd go for the mk5 z-s.

John

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27th Sep 10 at 15:25

quote:
Originally posted by Ben D

quote:
Originally posted by John
Why would you get a 206gti for that when you can get a faster, equivalently specced 172 for the same?

The interior is much better in a 206 GTi to start with and they look miles better, I loved my old one, And faster? Not really.

I'm not bias at all but i think i would rather a 206 GTi day to day than a 172 Cup

Interior's aren't much different, looks are matter of opinion again, I hate clio's and it still looks better.

I wasn't thinking about cup, was thinking about a normal spec one, can't see the point in the cup unless you only use it on track.

Corsa_Sport21

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27th Sep 10 at 15:41

Are the Clio Cups track designed cars??Whats the major differences that make them more suitable for track??Fancy suspension/bigger brakes and alot less weight??

John

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27th Sep 10 at 15:58

Fancy suspension and all the bits that make them bareable removed.

No difference in the real world, probably negligible difference on track, you get crap seats and no xenons as well as the other pitfalls of clio ownership.

Ben G

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27th Sep 10 at 16:00

i'd go for the 172. mk5 zs' are slow. good handling cars but then so are clio's so it's an easy choice imo.

Steve

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27th Sep 10 at 16:18

there was a fiesta mk5 going round the ring, impressed me how fast it was progressing compared to other 'faster' stuff

Ben G

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27th Sep 10 at 16:22

on straight's it's slow. no good for traffic light grand prix.

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