Laney
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Originally posted by SteveoBC
Reason I wanna slim first is I cant see me ever seeing a six pack or whatever with a beer gut in the way??
Just doing cardio isn't gonna give you a sixpack because they'll be no muscle to strip down to.
Seriously. Go lift a barbell.
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A2H GO
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Originally posted by Laney
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Originally posted by SteveoBC
Reason I wanna slim first is I cant see me ever seeing a six pack or whatever with a beer gut in the way??
Just doing cardio isn't gonna give you a sixpack because they'll be no muscle to strip down to.
Seriously. Go lift a barbell.
Everyone has abs, if your can't see them, your're to fat.
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Laney
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Surely that depends how you define abs? Yes everyone has SOME stomach muscle but the Mens Health-esque sixpack doesn't usually come for free!
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Jake
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you need 3 or 4 hours on photoshop to get abs of mens healyh quality
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A2H GO
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Originally posted by Laney
Surely that depends how you define abs? Yes everyone has SOME stomach muscle but the Mens Health-esque sixpack doesn't usually come for free!
That true but you said cardio wont give you a 6 pack as there is no muscle, which isnt true.
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ssj_kakarot
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Originally posted by Laney
Surely that depends how you define abs? Yes everyone has SOME stomach muscle but the Mens Health-esque sixpack doesn't usually come for free!
thats achieved through photoshop and clever lighting, shaving and cunning camera men
every one has a 6 pack get your body fat low enough and you look toned.
wanna lose weight? work out your maintenance calories then cut them by 500 cals a day and 45 mins of cardio a day, 3 days of lifting aswell to get your strength up and build a decent base
riptoes starting strength is decent for a few months.
not hard to lift weights/cardio, most of it is about your diet though.
educate your self now before your a year into it with no gains like so many people fall foul of.
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ssj_kakarot
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Originally posted by Stavs
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Originally posted by Laney
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Originally posted by SteveoBC
As iv said tho wanna slim down a bit first
then think about getting toned
The usual meaning of "toned" is decreased body fat and increased muscle.
Get someone to show you how to squat, deadlift, press and bench properly and forget the cardio. Oh, and drink milk. Lots of it.
If he needs to slim down cardio is the way forward, can never understand when there are fatty people on the weights ? surly bench presses wont loose a beer belly 
a heavy lifting session will usually burn more calories than running would, that said i agree, i dont understand why fatties stick to weights no cardio and then eat nothign but shit still.
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Originally posted by ssj_kakarot
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Originally posted by Stavs
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Originally posted by Laney
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Originally posted by SteveoBC
As iv said tho wanna slim down a bit first
then think about getting toned
The usual meaning of "toned" is decreased body fat and increased muscle.
Get someone to show you how to squat, deadlift, press and bench properly and forget the cardio. Oh, and drink milk. Lots of it.
If he needs to slim down cardio is the way forward, can never understand when there are fatty people on the weights ? surly bench presses wont loose a beer belly
a heavy lifting session will usually burn more calories than running would, that said i agree, i dont understand why fatties stick to weights no cardio and then eat nothign but shit still.
normally fat people cant do a heavy lift session because they are un-fit though
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Laney
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Originally posted by ssj_kakarot
thats achieved through photoshop and clever lighting, shaving and cunning camera men
every one has a 6 pack get your body fat low enough and you look toned.
wanna lose weight? work out your maintenance calories then cut them by 500 cals a day and 45 mins of cardio a day, 3 days of lifting aswell to get your strength up and build a decent base
riptoes starting strength is decent for a few months.
not hard to lift weights/cardio, most of it is about your diet though.
educate your self now before your a year into it with no gains like so many people fall foul of.
Is the last bit aimed at me or just in general? 
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ssj_kakarot
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just in general, see so many people going to my gym for months and making no progress.
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ssj_kakarot
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Originally posted by Stavs
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Originally posted by ssj_kakarot
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Originally posted by Stavs
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Originally posted by Laney
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Originally posted by SteveoBC
As iv said tho wanna slim down a bit first
then think about getting toned
The usual meaning of "toned" is decreased body fat and increased muscle.
Get someone to show you how to squat, deadlift, press and bench properly and forget the cardio. Oh, and drink milk. Lots of it.
If he needs to slim down cardio is the way forward, can never understand when there are fatty people on the weights ? surly bench presses wont loose a beer belly
a heavy lifting session will usually burn more calories than running would, that said i agree, i dont understand why fatties stick to weights no cardio and then eat nothign but shit still.
normally fat people cant do a heavy lift session because they are un-fit though
well its all relative if there not used to it, light weights may seem heavy to them, any one can lift heavy it doesnt take a lot of cardio endurance or anything.
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Dave86
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you can lose weight by doing weights  if you train hard enough, you will lose weight, might no be loads, but you should see a difference, only if you train properly tho, none of this 3x6 rep pish, 5x15 all the time, sweat like a badger
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ssj_kakarot
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Originally posted by Dave86
you can lose weight by doing weights if you train hard enough, you will lose weight, might no be loads, but you should see a difference, only if you train properly tho, none of this 3x6 rep pish, 5x15 all the time, sweat like a badger
you can lose weight but not doing any excersize at all
cut your maintenance cals by 500-800 a day and you will lose weight i dont think people where arguing that lifting weghts help weight loss, but added to cardio it helps more
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