Robbo
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genereally the only time a modern company woudl use compulsory redundancy is to remove the crap. we've done it at voda numerous times, theres a recession on and if youre no good then you deserve to be out on the dole
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Tom
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Bonuses too, we got a half decent one at xmas and I just know the stupid bint in our office who started here 5 months ago, works 3 days per week and has had approx 3 weeks off sick, is late in most days due to husband not bothering to get up/at gym/beating her up got the same as me and the other people who worked hard last year 
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I just worked out that sicne the credit crunch hit in Oct 2007, Ive increased my pay by 48%. Score.
I was redundant just about then so my pay has gone up 100% plus about 15% last year  
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Nath
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I had a payrise this week. I even got two last year 
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pow
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I'll get my 1.something% public sector payrise in March
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James
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Originally posted by Robbo
I just worked out that sicne the credit crunch hit in Oct 2007, Ive increased my pay by 48%. Score.
I was redundant just about then so my pay has gone up 100% plus about 15% last year
I've managed 71.4% since Jun 2007. Not too shabby.
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Robbo
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Lads, we are officially winning at life 
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RichR
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mine should be over 100% if I'd got the extra that the others got! fucking Jam Rags
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Russ
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Originally posted by Robbo
genereally the only time a modern company woudl use compulsory redundancy is to remove the crap. we've done it at voda numerous times, theres a recession on and if youre no good then you deserve to be out on the dole
This makes you sound so pompous. So if somebody is made redundant they are crap? As that's the "Only time a modern company" make compulsory redundancies. Mr. Pretentious or what? You suit vodaPHone mate, neither of you can fucking spell.
[Edited on 06-01-2011 by Russ]
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Robbo
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its true russlar 
and fyi, its pretentious
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RichR
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I have to say, I know a lot of companies which used the "recession" as a reason to clear out the wheat from the chaff. Companies which were successful and busy getting rid of people; the only apparent reason being to downsize the workforce and then telling those remaining that they were lucky to have a job so to pick up the slack so to speak. It did seem to give an excuse
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Russ
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its true russlar
and fyi, its pretentious
thanks for correcting me friend.
However, your view on life is more distorted than a goth teenagers
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James
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I don't think removing the crap is the only reason to trigger a round of redunancies. However it is a no brainer that if a round of redundancies is required for whatever reason, the weaker staff will go first.
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Robbo
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I have to say, I know a lot of companies which used the "recession" as a reason to clear out the wheat from the chaff. Companies which were successful and busy getting rid of people; the only apparent reason being to downsize the workforce and then telling those remaining that they were lucky to have a job so to pick up the slack so to speak. It did seem to give an excuse
Yup, we had a rejig in our team of 20 last March, one job was lost and guess who was made redundant ah yes, the shit person who was riding on doing fook all. was his role made redundant? hell no, it formed part of the rejig and someone else took on his responsibilities but that kind of thing happens all the time in the private sector.
Obv not eveyrone who is made compulsoraily redundant is shit but its true in a lot fo cases as who wants to lose a genuinely top memeber of staff, you accomodate them elsewhere. slightly diff in the public sector too granted
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Robbo
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I don't think removing the crap is the only reason to trigger a round of redunancies. However it is a no brainer that if a round of redundancies is required for whatever reason, the weaker staff will go first.
yeah sorry, i meant the only time you would probably compulsorarily make people redundant over doing vr would be because someone is crap and its a good chance to remove them
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Jamie Walby
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its to avoid bad publicity and also not mugging people off for their livelihood. it is daft in many ways but redundancy is all about reducing the cost base. a one-off payment of maybe 60% of a years cost (benefits, hols, bonus, ni etc) to save maybe 5 years of everything
Speculate to accumulate
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Kerry
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what about when companies have to make cuts and have several teams over the country doing similar jobs so they cut whole teams and make the others do more work?
does that mean someones crap?
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Robbo
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see thats why you run your opwn gaff walbinho, you got the nous
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Russ
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Obv not eveyrone who is made compulsoraily redundant is shit
Really? 
Contradiction.
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Robbo
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Originally posted by Kerry
what about when companies have to make cuts and have several teams over the country doing similar jobs so they cut whole teams and make the others do more work?
does that mean someones crap?
if theyre that great then they could be found other jobs within the organisation?
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Robbo
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Originally posted by Russ
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Originally posted by Robbo
Obv not eveyrone who is made compulsoraily redundant is shit
Really?
Contradiction.
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Originally posted by Robbo
genereally the only time a modern company woudl use compulsory redundancy is to remove the crap. we've done it at voda numerous times, theres a recession on and if youre no good then you deserve to be out on the dole
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Kerry
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Oh and for the record i scored higher than everyone in my department for pay review and was one of very few that got bonus yet i was made redundant because of the above? yet im crap?
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Kerry
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what about when companies have to make cuts and have several teams over the country doing similar jobs so they cut whole teams and make the others do more work?
does that mean someones crap?
if theyre that great then they could be found other jobs within the organisation?
not if theres a recruitment freeze or the whole company is under restructure!!
its not always the case of just find someone else a job? and usually this means taking a pay cut so i would say that means your not worth it anyway surely?
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Robbo
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meh
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Russ
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Somebody has been hanging around with too many bigwigs and has lost his morals and view on reality.
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Kerry
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ive just been a part of redundancies for the last 3 years before it finally happened to me and not once did i see someone leave because they are crap or get kept on because they are so great
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