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I know 
I thought I'd post it up as I was curious as to how much we are being ripped off by! 
I might move to the USA - cost me only £20 to fill up a 60 litre tank out there last year!
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nibnob21
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Takes the piss how much we have to pay to be honest. But I suppose if we weren't taxed on it then we would just be taxed more somewhere else...
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SetH
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If a Police man over here pushes a protester he ends up in Court. Over there you can pop caps in the Cunts.
This is the reason these countries dont have a CHAV generation 
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Dr Pepper
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Originally posted by Sam
Most of the protesters in these countries just protest peacefully - it's the corrupt governments that want to silence them as they aren't allowed to speak out against anything - unlike in the UK where everyone is allowed to voice an opinion, over in those countries you get murdered if you speak out.
It's bad that they have to die to get their message across, but hopefully it won't be in vain and people can actually stand up to the corruption and wrongdoings in these countries that Westerners condone in order to get their supply of oil at good prices...
whats really bad is the fact we have publically backed these leaders who hold power by force in these countries.... we trade with them, sell them arms, free their prisoners ... untill the population take power back by force then we publically denounce these evil dictators.
Its a load of crap - egypt, iraq, afghanistan, libya, bahrain - we backed and sold arms to all these fucking maniacs....hell - we even gave them weapons for free if we thought they were going to kill communists with them.
Then we have the balls to fight 'a war on terror' --- it would be funny if it wasnt actually scary
[Edited on 22-02-2011 by Dr Pepper]
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Nath
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Originally posted by SetH
If a Police man over here pushes a protester he ends up in Court. Over there you can pop caps in the Cunts.
This is the reason these countries dont have a CHAV generation
I'd rather have a chav generation in all honesty.
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emicen
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quote:
Originally posted by Sam
Most of the protesters in these countries just protest peacefully - it's the corrupt governments that want to silence them as they aren't allowed to speak out against anything - unlike in the UK where everyone is allowed to voice an opinion, over in those countries you get murdered if you speak out.
It's bad that they have to die to get their message across, but hopefully it won't be in vain and people can actually stand up to the corruption and wrongdoings in these countries that Westerners condone in order to get their supply of oil at good prices...
That's a bit broad brush to be fair.
Of the current problem states (not all arab either, as someone else called them) there are marked differences:
- Egypt, elected PM/Govt but refuse to step down, no oil
- Libya, dictatorship which refuses democracy, got oil
- Bahrain, sovereignty which appoints Govt iirc, got oil
Whilst you say we ignore it because we want the oil, you could equally argue that not accepting it and trying to force our values on to them is exactly what spawned Al Qaeda style thinking.
Also, us getting high and mighty and not buying their oil till they sort out their people's standard of living and human rights would do nothing. China, who openly don't give a fuck would happily suck up the excess supply.
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Dr Pepper
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quote:
Originally posted by emicen
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Originally posted by Sam
Most of the protesters in these countries just protest peacefully - it's the corrupt governments that want to silence them as they aren't allowed to speak out against anything - unlike in the UK where everyone is allowed to voice an opinion, over in those countries you get murdered if you speak out.
It's bad that they have to die to get their message across, but hopefully it won't be in vain and people can actually stand up to the corruption and wrongdoings in these countries that Westerners condone in order to get their supply of oil at good prices...
That's a bit broad brush to be fair.
Of the current problem states (not all arab either, as someone else called them) there are marked differences:
- Egypt, elected PM/Govt but refuse to step down, no oil
- Libya, dictatorship which refuses democracy, got oil
- Bahrain, sovereignty which appoints Govt iirc, got oil
Whilst you say we ignore it because we want the oil, you could equally argue that not accepting it and trying to force our values on to them is exactly what spawned Al Qaeda style thinking.
Also, us getting high and mighty and not buying their oil till they sort out their people's standard of living and human rights would do nothing. China, who openly don't give a fuck would happily suck up the excess supply.
How about us and america just stopped selling them weapons.....might help
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SetH
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quote:
Originally posted by Nath
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Originally posted by SetH
If a Police man over here pushes a protester he ends up in Court. Over there you can pop caps in the Cunts.
This is the reason these countries dont have a CHAV generation
I'd rather have a chav generation in all honesty.
pregnant 16yr old sluts with those huge big gold hoops in trackie bottoms is what you masterbate too, admit this
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Nath
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quote:
Originally posted by SetH
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Originally posted by Nath
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Originally posted by SetH
If a Police man over here pushes a protester he ends up in Court. Over there you can pop caps in the Cunts.
This is the reason these countries dont have a CHAV generation
I'd rather have a chav generation in all honesty.
pregnant 16yr old sluts with those huge big gold hoops in trackie bottoms is what you masterbate too, admit this
No, I'd rather not be shot at is my point
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Sam
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Re. Egypt - Mubarak was never elected, he took control of the country when his predecessor Anwar Sadat was assasinated by Islamic extremists. Mubarak and his family are some of the most richest and corrupt people in Egypt hence why the Egyptians want to freeze his overseas assets to get the money back to the country.
My comment about oil was directed at countries that export oil, I wasn't really saying all Arab countries do so. 
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SetH
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quote:
Originally posted by Nath
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Originally posted by SetH
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Originally posted by Nath
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Originally posted by SetH
If a Police man over here pushes a protester he ends up in Court. Over there you can pop caps in the Cunts.
This is the reason these countries dont have a CHAV generation
I'd rather have a chav generation in all honesty.
pregnant 16yr old sluts with those huge big gold hoops in trackie bottoms is what you masterbate too, admit this
No, I'd rather not be shot at is my point
Fucking behave yourself then
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Nath
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I'll shoot you if you don't fucking behave.
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SetH
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With gentleman's relish?
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emicen
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quote:
Originally posted by Dr Pepper
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Originally posted by emicen
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Originally posted by Sam
Most of the protesters in these countries just protest peacefully - it's the corrupt governments that want to silence them as they aren't allowed to speak out against anything - unlike in the UK where everyone is allowed to voice an opinion, over in those countries you get murdered if you speak out.
It's bad that they have to die to get their message across, but hopefully it won't be in vain and people can actually stand up to the corruption and wrongdoings in these countries that Westerners condone in order to get their supply of oil at good prices...
That's a bit broad brush to be fair.
Of the current problem states (not all arab either, as someone else called them) there are marked differences:
- Egypt, elected PM/Govt but refuse to step down, no oil
- Libya, dictatorship which refuses democracy, got oil
- Bahrain, sovereignty which appoints Govt iirc, got oil
Whilst you say we ignore it because we want the oil, you could equally argue that not accepting it and trying to force our values on to them is exactly what spawned Al Qaeda style thinking.
Also, us getting high and mighty and not buying their oil till they sort out their people's standard of living and human rights would do nothing. China, who openly don't give a fuck would happily suck up the excess supply.
How about us and america just stopped selling them weapons.....might help
The Americans may well argue we should stop training them. SAS taught the Taliban and pretty sure there was a news story fairly recently of them doing bits and pieces with the Lybians.
@ Sam, wasn't including you in the Arab comment mate, just picking up on something someone else had said lumping all sandscape countries together.
IMHO, lessons learned from the last half century of middle eastern tension. Leave them the fuck alone to just get on with it!
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Jambo
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quote:
Originally posted by emicen
That's a bit broad brush to be fair.
Of the current problem states (not all arab either, as someone else called them) there are marked differences:
- Egypt, elected PM/Govt but refuse to step down, no oil
- Libya, dictatorship which refuses democracy, got oil
- Bahrain, sovereignty which appoints Govt iirc, got oil
Whilst you say we ignore it because we want the oil, you could equally argue that not accepting it and trying to force our values on to them is exactly what spawned Al Qaeda style thinking.
Also, us getting high and mighty and not buying their oil till they sort out their people's standard of living and human rights would do nothing. China, who openly don't give a fuck would happily suck up the excess supply.
At least somebody knows what they are talking about here 
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Nismo
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Another vid
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ztNrUlIp-I&feature=related
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Robbo
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Anyone else just really not give a fuck about all this?
Just me?
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nibnob21
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Originally posted by Robbo
Anyone else just really not give a fuck about all this?
Just me?
Bit of a shit attitude to take if you ask me.
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Robbo
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why?
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nibnob21
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Just an ignorant approach to take. Just because you personally can't do anything to stop it, that doesn't mean it doesn't matter.
Read the article in the description for this video. Makes you realise how fucked up some of the Government's are.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3WRKoZPPao&feature=related&skipcontrinter=1
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Sam
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Given that the UK have sold arms to Bahrain, those people might have been killed by British bullets.
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Robbo
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Originally posted by nibnob21
Just an ignorant approach to take. Just because you personally can't do anything to stop it, that doesn't mean it doesn't matter.
Read the article in the description for this video. Makes you realise how fucked up some of the Government's are.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3WRKoZPPao&feature=related&skipcontrinter=1
nothing to do with that, just not interested. bored of hearing about other countries problems, we have enough of our own to deal with.
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Gary
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Ahh fuck em and them lot rioting in Egypt etc
Bunch of murdering rapists anyways.
Mypersonal opinion anyways. They prob have good reason to be protesting but i honestly couldnt care less.
[Edited on 22-02-2011 by Gary]
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Jambo
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Originally posted by Sam
Given that the UK have sold arms to Bahrain, those people might have been killed by British bullets.
Makes as much difference if they where shot by japaneese bullets tbh.
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Jambo
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Originally posted by Gary
Ahh fuck em and them lot rioting in Egypt etc
Bunch of murdering rapists anyways.
Mypersonal opinion anyways. They prob have good reason to be protesting but i honestly couldnt care less.
[Edited on 22-02-2011 by Gary]
Mob mentality. It's well documented that people behave differently/badly in large numbers. Not that I condone it, but it's not quite as "evil" as you say.
Democracy in Islamic states and developing countries is a very good thing. Everyone should give a shit about it. It's historic.
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