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Ojc
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17th Mar 11 at 14:00   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by jr


Corsa C rear arm


IS IT? Do they handle better than B's in your opinion as I don't think they do? Or am I mad?
sand-eel
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17th Mar 11 at 14:01   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
^^^ still pivoted wrong.
jr
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17th Mar 11 at 14:01   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
thats the HH kit, the standard is as per a corsa b, and im not sure ollie ive never had a really fast C
DaveyLC
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17th Mar 11 at 14:05   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
I've seen quite a few Corsa B rally cars with IRS... If you're that worried its far easier and cheaper to just buy a different car
Mieran
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17th Mar 11 at 14:55   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
Fit a bearing in the middle of the beam, will have similar effects to independent suspension, then remove the arb and fit a Corsa C one
DaveyLC
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17th Mar 11 at 15:23   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
Its not really that simple.
Scotty C
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17th Mar 11 at 15:49   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by DaveyLC
I've seen quite a few Corsa B rally cars with IRS... If you're that worried its far easier and cheaper to just buy a different car


Wouldnt say I'm worried, I was just curious on how easy it would be. Turns out there is more involved than I thought.
sand-eel
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Originally posted by Mieran
Fit a bearing in the middle of the beam, will have similar effects to independent suspension, then remove the arb and fit a Corsa C one


That would make things a lot worse, its basically just removing any stiffness the back end has
Jambo
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17th Mar 11 at 21:55   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by DaveyLC
I've seen quite a few Corsa B rally cars with IRS... If you're that worried its far easier and cheaper to just buy a different car


Quoting this as the most sensible post in here as it seemed to be overlooked first time round
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18th Mar 11 at 08:35   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
[flamesuit]Buy a Peugeot and enjoy great handling as standard[/flamesuit]

I would rather lose by a mile because i built my own car, than win by an inch because someone else built it for me.
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[flamesuit]Buy a Peugeot and enjoy great handling as standard[/flamesuit]


Lift off oversteer FTW!
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18th Mar 11 at 08:49   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
Indeed.

I would rather lose by a mile because i built my own car, than win by an inch because someone else built it for me.
Scotty C
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18th Mar 11 at 09:44   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
Corsa are terrible for that anyway...
Jenko_Sport
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Originally posted by Scotty C
Corsa are terrible for that anyway...


Terrible for lift off oversteer

Really?
antnee
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18th Mar 11 at 11:24   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
If I was doing it, I would be looking at getting the wishbones and hubs from the front, fabricate a subframe to hold the wishbones, adjust the suspension towers to suit, then make a mount for an adjustable arm to replace the track rod so then toe angle is adjustable.
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18th Mar 11 at 11:25   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
You can induce lift off oversteer with a Corsa, you just need to be going fast enough. My 106 XSI was awesome for it though, such a fun car
Scotty C
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18th Mar 11 at 11:58   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by Jenko_Sport
quote:
Originally posted by Scotty C
Corsa are terrible for that anyway...


Terrible for lift off oversteer

Really?


Well my old one was. Only due to being stripped and having budget tyres on the rear with good tyres up front

[Edited on 18-03-2011 by Scotty C]
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18th Mar 11 at 12:56   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
they do this on autograss racing totally get rid of the rear beam and have two (trailing wheels) attached to independent wish bones were the rear beam used to be doesnt look that hard to do either just suppose you would have to be pretty good at geometry to line everything etc etc to make the car go in a straight line surely?
DaveyLC
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Originally posted by Scotty C
Corsa are terrible for that anyway...


I've never noticed that to be a problem.. Maybe yours has got a bent rear beam/chassis?
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Ive ran pikey tyres and stripped rear, only time rear end has gone twitchy is under breaking.

With a rear anti roll bar they reduce understeer abit but wouldnt say its to bad for lift off oversteer.
Scotty C
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quote:
Originally posted by Scotty C
Corsa are terrible for that anyway...


I've never noticed that to be a problem.. Maybe yours has got a bent rear beam/chassis?


Like I said it was stripped and shit rear tyres. I haven't had chance to test my current corsa out yet.
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18th Mar 11 at 15:30   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
corsa lowered 110mm is not going to handle good.
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18th Mar 11 at 16:42   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by Jenko_Sport
Ive ran pikey tyres and stripped rear, only time rear end has gone twitchy is under breaking.

With a rear anti roll bar they reduce understeer abit but wouldnt say its to bad for lift off oversteer.


Rear anti-roll bars make lift off oversteer greater, its just physics.

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