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big eck

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1st Aug 11 at 13:58

The reason it's so expensive is the labour costs. The full sub frame needs to come off to remove the box. The box itself is actually a Renault unit hence why vauxhall don't hold the parts.

sc0ott

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1st Aug 11 at 14:27

Does renault stock the parts?

big eck

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1st Aug 11 at 15:28

I'd imagine so.

Steve

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1st Aug 11 at 15:30

quote:
Originally posted by big eck
The reason it's so expensive is the labour costs. The full sub frame needs to come off to remove the box. The box itself is actually a Renault unit hence why vauxhall don't hold the parts.

yeah but surely it would be a damn site cheaper then 2k if they just removed the box and fixed the shit bearing rather then fitting a brand new box

should be given the option imo, not holding parts isnt a valid option, and by all accounts probably against selling law (manufacturers are required by law to hold all parts in stock for 10 years after a model was made)

saying that im not sure if that applies to sub assemblies but dont see why not

Dave

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1st Aug 11 at 16:02

quote:
Originally posted by big eck
The reason it's so expensive is the labour costs. The full sub frame needs to come off to remove the box. The box itself is actually a Renault unit hence why vauxhall don't hold the parts.

That's hardly a reason not to stock parts though. What happens when an engine that has been sourced from another marque goes wrong? Do they just swap that one out for a new one too?

Also, if it's a Renault box what Renault cars is it used in?

Ian

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1st Aug 11 at 17:20

May also be that they don't fancy the dealer staff doing a box rebuild.

sc0ott

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1st Aug 11 at 17:22

Small update:

Hes taking it to kwik fit tomorrow for a rebuild.

[Edited on 01-08-2011 by sc0ott]

lee303

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1st Aug 11 at 17:24

it wont be cheaper for a dealer to rebuild the box, labour costs, parts costs etc, its always gonna be cheaper and easier for vaux to sling a recon in, same as engine problems nowadays, its all about how quick you can do the job, shame really, most ‘mechanics’ are now just fittters

[Edited on 01-08-2011 by lee303]

Steve

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1st Aug 11 at 17:28

cheaper for them yes, not cheaper for the customer though? as they are forking out probably near a grand for the new/recon box + labour fitting etc

Steve

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1st Aug 11 at 17:28

quote:
Originally posted by sc0ott
Small update:

Hes taking it to kwik fit tomorrow for a rebuild.

[Edited on 01-08-2011 by sc0ott]

lol wtf is that a piss take? i woudlnt trust kwik fit to fit discs let alone attempt that

big eck

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1st Aug 11 at 17:28

When my box went I approached the Vauxhall main dealer in my area and was told by the head mechanic that they will only fit a new box and not fix the original. They then reffered me to the place that fixed mine at a much cheaper cost.

Steve

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1st Aug 11 at 17:29

any reasons?

BarnshaW

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1st Aug 11 at 17:36

kwik fit for a gearbox rebuild?

Mattb

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1st Aug 11 at 18:01

quote:
Originally posted by BarnshaW
kwik fit for a gearbox rebuild?

would be surprised if a kwik shit fitter even knew how a gearbox worked

scoob

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1st Aug 11 at 18:16

mines still working

big eck

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1st Aug 11 at 19:36

quote:
Originally posted by Steve
any reasons?

Nope, I even mentioned that there are a load of them on the forums that have had the same problems and he just fobbed me off lol.

ryan docherty

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1st Aug 11 at 20:15

Bravo 1.4 150bhp turbos have m32 box and new scudo vans lol i work for fiat i was suprised when i 1st seen that

lee303

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1st Aug 11 at 20:32

quote:
Originally posted by Steve
cheaper for them yes, not cheaper for the customer though? as they are forking out probably near a grand for the new/recon box + labour fitting etc

would still be cheaper to get a recon fitted, as its pretty much the same job, minus the splitting of the box to fit the bearing, if it wasn’t, people would still do stuff like this at the dealerships, even independant garages will just fit a recon if poss now

Steve

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1st Aug 11 at 20:33

fair enough lol

Joe

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1st Aug 11 at 20:36

As Lee said, its far easier to have a box ready to put straight back in than a car sat on a ramp for a day or 2 that you can't move without a load of hassle so defo saves time and effort for garage and customer.

lee303

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1st Aug 11 at 20:37

i dont like it, but its the way it is, has really killed a lot of the skill base in the car mechanic trade tbh

AlexW

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2nd Aug 11 at 07:32

One would assume another reason to replace rather than repair is the replacement is a guaranteed fix, at least until it dies again.

Steve

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2nd Aug 11 at 07:33

so is bearing replacement really

there are some advantages of a new box though i guess, one that all the bearings etc will be new

second that i reckon most of these failiures are caused by shit manufacturing tolerances on the boxes putting too much load on the bearing and race, if you get a new box i guess you have a chance that that one isnt so bad lol

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2nd Aug 11 at 09:11

Surely the 'new' gearboxes they are selling you are just rebuilt broken ones?

Steve

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2nd Aug 11 at 09:13

recons so yeah

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