Toby
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Sky are even worse. they monitor phone calls thw works. If an engineer says they left a message for a customer but was only connected for 10 seconds its DP time.
If i think anyone was taking the piss at work i just check Tacho's but its not often i would feel the need to do so.
[Edited on 04-10-2011 by Toby]
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taylorboosh
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it can prove your not speeding in an accident
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pow
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The later minibuses at work have them, we have a large 60 plate hi-top tranny with one and the deputy heads got a ticking off for doing 93 in it lol
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Ian
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If it was my company I would track my vans, and if anyone started working to rule and being difficult I would sack them and employ one of the next thousand people who could also do the job.
And if I was on the tools and the office staff got treated better, I would get a job in the office.
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adiohead
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I wouldn't work for a company who spies on their workers.
I would rather work on trust.
That's what this country is missing and why it's the one with the most CCTV in Europe.
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whitter45
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I wouldn't worry about using the car for your personal use with a tracker
You pay BIK Tax as its a benefit so use it
And I also do nt see how you can be held accountable for speeding - that's a risk you take and if caught you pay the penaility
Different i suppose ifs a branded car or van as it would look unprofessional but its a company just use it
If my company was to install a tracker it would not bother me
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Dave
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You don't pay any extra tax if you only use the van to commute from home to place of work iirc.
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Dave
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quote:
Originally posted by Ian
If it was my company I would track my vans, and if anyone started working to rule and being difficult I would sack them and employ one of the next thousand people who could also do the job.
And if I was on the tools and the office staff got treated better, I would get a job in the office.
Come on Ian, you're intelligent enough to know it's not that straight forward in either instance.
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Jake
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quote:
Originally posted by adiohead
I wouldn't work for a company who spies on their workers.
I would rather work on trust.
That's what this country is missing and why it's the one with the most CCTV in Europe.
what a load of old shit
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adiohead
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quote:
Originally posted by Jake
quote:
Originally posted by adiohead
I wouldn't work for a company who spies on their workers.
I would rather work on trust.
That's what this country is missing and why it's the one with the most CCTV in Europe.
what a load of old shit
What is shit?
I'm gonna stick a camera in your toilet and watch you poo
ps:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Closed-circuit_television
"Surveillance of the public using CCTV is particularly common in the United Kingdom, where there are reportedly more cameras per person than in any other country in the world.[3] There and elsewhere, its increasing use has triggered a debate about security versus privacy."
[Edited on 04-10-2011 by adiohead]
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Jake
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no one can be trusted.
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whitter45
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quote:
Originally posted by CorsaDave
You don't pay any extra tax if you only use the van to commute from home to place of work iirc.
yeah apologies I realise this was on about company vans
But the thread also mentioned cars
I wouldn't blame company owners tracking their fleet of vans
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corsav6_mut
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We've just got them on our vans at AA but they call it telematics and they say it's purely for emissions.
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Seany
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my old company had them fitted because all the transits were getting used at night to deliver takeaways and they were using the fuel cards to fill up while doing so.
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neil h
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quote:
Originally posted by adiohead
ps:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Closed-circuit_television
"Surveillance of the public using CCTV is particularly common in the United Kingdom, where there are reportedly more cameras per person than in any other country in the world.[3] There and elsewhere, its increasing use has triggered a debate about security versus privacy."
[Edited on 04-10-2011 by adiohead]
Not sure what's more of a fail. Quoting Wikipedia as a source of information or the fact the article it references has no useful supporting data.
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adiohead
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quote:
Originally posted by neil h
quote:
Originally posted by adiohead
ps:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Closed-circuit_television
"Surveillance of the public using CCTV is particularly common in the United Kingdom, where there are reportedly more cameras per person than in any other country in the world.[3] There and elsewhere, its increasing use has triggered a debate about security versus privacy."
[Edited on 04-10-2011 by adiohead]
Not sure what's more of a fail. Quoting Wikipedia as a source of information or the fact the article it references has no useful supporting data.
oh ffs:
There are 4.2million closed circuit TV cameras here, one per every 14 people
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1205607/Shock-figures-reveal-Britain-CCTV-camera-14-people--China.html#ixzz1ZpOdfF9l
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Welsh Dan
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Apparently, hiding the GPS receiver with tinfoil blocks the signal 
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Gary
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Mobile phone signal blocker jobby would work too I reckon
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adiohead
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Hypothetical scenario:
How would people feel if the government decided that every car should have one of these fitted tomorrow?
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Danny W
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our company have trackers fitted, very good bits of kit if used correctly and for the right purpose.
can obviously check speed & location etc. they have helped get a few people out of trouble, one being due to a false accident claim, proved them wrong as the van was about 80 miles away from where the accident was suposed to have occured
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Gareth
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Got one on my pug they use it for mileage audits, start/finish/overtime claims etc. We are limited to 78mph go over 80mph and it emails the manager and i expect to get a phone call saying slow down 
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Jake
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quote:
Originally posted by adiohead
Hypothetical scenario:
How would people feel if the government decided that every car should have one of these fitted tomorrow?
thats a completely different scenario so why ask?
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adiohead
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Because it asks where privacy begins
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Ian
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If they fitted one to my private vehicle I would be a bit annoyed but this isn't what we're talking about.
The van is owned by the company, therefore the company have some interest in knowing where it is, how it's being driven and what it's being used for.
I appreciate that it should work on trust but there are examples in this thread of what that doesn't work, namely being contrary and difficult because things don't suit you.
I've driven vans in the past and I didn't use it other than to commute and do the job in hand. But I know other people were using it just like another car in the household on the company fuel. That was in addition to driving them like tools while on the job.
That is why there is no trust. I'm quite sure the company would prefer not to have the expense of doing it but while you're paying contrary idiots you need to deal with them accordingly.
[Edited on 04-10-2011 by Ian]
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Jake
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exactly ^
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