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IvIarkgraham
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31st Oct 11 at 12:38   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

know any good bodyshops tom?
Mike
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Without witnesses it'll probably depend on whether or not the truck has cameras although if they're asking you to get quotes then it sounds like they're willing to accept liability.
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Because of the way it is marked out the wagon was in the wrong, you had every right to either turn right or go straight on, the wagon could only have gone right from the lane he was in.

It looks badly marked out though, don't see why you should be able to take the third exit when you've entered in the left lane.
Ian
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31st Oct 11 at 12:55   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Looks like he's entered your path but I can't help but feel sorry for the guy, sounds like you've sat in his blind spot the whole time.

Was he indicating?
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quote:
Originally posted by Ian
Looks like he's entered your path but I can't help but feel sorry for the guy, sounds like you've sat in his blind spot the whole time.



if vrs turbo was in front, which judging by the damage, he was, how can he have possibly sat in the lorrys blind spot? you can't expect to speed up/slow down because a lorry is coming up alongside.
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Any situation you might end up beside a lorry you should definitely be thinking about what you can do to not be there, especially at a junction/manoeuvre etc.
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same as the lorry should be thinking about what he's doing then?
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Yes, his view is more restricted though and he cares less because he's massive and cars should be getting out of the way.
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31st Oct 11 at 13:28   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Lorries fault, but this is why I stay well clear of lorries. Especially in MK, side by side with a lorry at a roundabout is a no no.
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Also, I was behind a mate on the motorway years ago, lorry just came straight into his lane and pinned him against the barrier for a bit.

Took years to get a pay out even though it was 100% the lorry who caused it.

You also find that if it's a company with loads of vans or other vehicles, one or 2 of them full of guys will have surprisingly been right behind you and seen it all happening.
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If you're sat on his front corner, he won't know you are there.

That is why new lorries now have a centre mirror so you can see the front. Even then, that doesn't fully reach in to the NS lane.

If you're under the passnger mirror, even if you're slightly in front of him, unless you're a good car length ahead you won't be visible at all.

I'm agreeing he entered the path, no question of that, but I don't agree he cares less - he has no alternative, you have windows and mirrors and if there's nothing in them, the rest is sheer guesswork. Any car drivers who hang about anywhere near lorries ever need to sit in one and see why that's a bad idea.

Still unclear as to whether the lorry was indicating as well. That should been a good sign to get the hell away or get on the horn or something. According to the test he won't even have indicated if it's not clear, which means he thinks it is.
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i was in front of the lorry at a point then traffic made me brake so the lorry didnt judge the traffic in front and just went
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silvers fault for being in wrong lane
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Agree with Ian, its near impossible to see your N/S front corner in a truck, especially if your practically right on the corner.

Looks like the lorries fault, but without seeing what exactly happend only you know whos fault it is. Stories get twisted in favour of each person in an accident.

The amount of twats who sit on a lorries corner, or come round the inside on a roundabout is scary. People should be taught that its wise to let the lorry go, or get out of the way.

We recently had a triple extendend load with a wind turbine tower on, about 35-40m long, two escort vans infront, and two behind. Driver managed to pass on the hard shoulder and get stuck between the trailer and vans, clipped his wing mirror on the tower, and did serious £££ worth of damage to it. Absolute retards.


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The lorry should have been on the inside lane to begin with.
Ian
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31st Oct 11 at 15:34   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

No basis in law for that.
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Yes, but he wouldn't of had to worry about his blind spot if he'd been in the correct lane in the first place.

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