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mattk

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23rd Nov 11 at 18:39

quote:
Originally posted by whitter45
You have to be a certain type of individual to get to grips with business politics

An arsehole. Mainly

Aaron

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23rd Nov 11 at 18:41

I agree. For 10 years, I've worked for the local council, in various schools (ICT support and then management). Only recently have I moved over to working for a company. I don't like it. It's full of yuppies suck-ups and ass kissers. Back stabbing and bitching happens on a daily basis, plus, the culture of blame is out of this world. Of course, this might be just my company, but...I doubt it.

mattk

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23rd Nov 11 at 18:45

I contract to some mid sized companies, it is embarrasing sometimes in meetings watching the obvious sycophanting suck ups

A2H GO

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23rd Nov 11 at 18:45

quote:
Originally posted by mattk

quote:
Originally posted by whitter45
You have to be a certain type of individual to get to grips with business politics

An arsehole. Mainly

This is my problem, I know if I conform I'll do well but half the time I don't believe in the decisions they make and wouldn't feel right going along with them.

mattk

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23rd Nov 11 at 18:50

then you will get no where, may as well be an arse licker if you can do it, someone will make the silly decisions, it may as well be you, because otherwise as a worker you wont make the decisions but you will have to put up with them

Ian

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23rd Nov 11 at 19:01

Totally agree with Matt.

I plateaued in my job because I wasn't liked, and I wasn't liked because I didn't always say the right things.

Russ

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23rd Nov 11 at 19:06

Just started new job, neck deep in my mangers arse from now on then

Ian

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23rd Nov 11 at 19:10

And if anyone doesn't believe it, I actually got it as interview feedback, didn't smile enough.

Working with people you didn't respect was a lot of that.

A2H GO

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23rd Nov 11 at 19:21

quote:
Originally posted by mattk
then you will get no where, may as well be an arse licker if you can do it, someone will make the silly decisions, it may as well be you, because otherwise as a worker you wont make the decisions but you will have to put up with them

I'd rather get nowhere than stand up for things I don't believe in and have to live with myself.

Hammer

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23rd Nov 11 at 19:23

You'll notice most opinions formed in here are born of bitterness

Russ

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23rd Nov 11 at 19:29

quote:
Originally posted by A2H GO

quote:
Originally posted by mattk
then you will get no where, may as well be an arse licker if you can do it, someone will make the silly decisions, it may as well be you, because otherwise as a worker you wont make the decisions but you will have to put up with them

I'd rather get nowhere than stand up for things I don't believe in and have to live with myself.

pride dont pay the mortgage

--DAN--

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23rd Nov 11 at 19:42

quote:
Originally posted by adiohead
eg. selling chicken feet to China

Its worked for me!(seriously!)

A2H GO

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23rd Nov 11 at 19:48

quote:
Originally posted by Russ

quote:
Originally posted by A2H GO

quote:
Originally posted by mattk
then you will get no where, may as well be an arse licker if you can do it, someone will make the silly decisions, it may as well be you, because otherwise as a worker you wont make the decisions but you will have to put up with them

I'd rather get nowhere than stand up for things I don't believe in and have to live with myself.
pride dont pay the mortgage

It's a fucked up world we live in.

IvIarkgraham

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23rd Nov 11 at 19:51

I beleive i got where i am from not being an arse licker. I argue with people and do what i can to piss them off if they try to argue against me. I am also very hard working though.

Had the maintenance foreman make a formal complaint about me because he thought i was bringing in excessive amounts of tooling requests. He got told to do what ever i asked for! Then every bit of tooling we needed i signed for it to piss him off. He eventually went off with stress and quit

stubs

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24th Nov 11 at 07:41

quote:
Originally posted by Russ
Verse 1

I know there is pain (I know there is pain, I know there is pain (echo))
Why do lock yourself up in these chains? (these chains, these chains (echo))
No one can change your life except for you
Don't ever let anyone step all over you
Just open your heart and your mind, mmm
Is it really fair to feel this way inside?

etc...etc....

Wilson Philips - Hold On?

Cracking song

stubs

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24th Nov 11 at 07:46

quote:
Originally posted by SetH
your fate is in your hands, do something about it!

I was the same back in 2007 working in Tech Support.

I devised a plan of action. Paid for some professional training and a few years later i am now a Project Manager for HP earning what I aimed for.

There are still guys in my old Team moaning and bitching but none of them have taken any action!

PM is an area that I've never taken much notice to until recently. What's the wage like, and what's the job like in terms of stress levels and stability?

adiohead

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24th Nov 11 at 09:25

quote:
Originally posted by --DAN--

quote:
Originally posted by adiohead
eg. selling chicken feet to China

Its worked for me!(seriously!)

Are you a millionaire though?

--DAN--

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24th Nov 11 at 10:28

Nope, but my boss is hundreds of times over and I earn a very nice salary so it's all good.

adiohead

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24th Nov 11 at 10:53

ahhh, so your boss is the millionaire.

chicken feet to China is a great way to make money if you have lots of spare feet.

I was being serious in my original post as I read about some guy who did that and became a millionaire.

Ian

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24th Nov 11 at 10:54

quote:
Originally posted by Hammer
You'll notice most opinions formed in here are born of bitterness

Dead right, it does get to you after a while

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